Petite question, ça va faire pas mal de temps que je me dis qu'il me faut un team Dark heavy pour certains descended. Par exemple pour Nordis j'ai galéré comme un porc parce que je ne dispose pas de team Descended Dark Heavy.

Vu ma Monster Box, je pense avoir le choix entre Zaerog8 ou Typhon.

Pour le premier, j'ai pas Haku, donc ça me limite carrément.

Pour Typhon, j'ai deux Pandora dont une maxée (me manque ses skill ups...), et deux Hanzo, mais il va me manquer des hearth makers, à part le Grape Dragon j'ai pas grand chose (surtout que c'est une merde à skill up celui-là).

Vous en pensez quoi ? J'aurai loupé quelque chose ? J'ai eu Satsuki récemment, mais je ne vois pas tellement comment la rendre vraiment efficace.

Satsuki c'est water,jammer,et poison (recent buff)....

À prendre,deux Hanzo,je sais pas si c'est si utile...

Sinon,je partage un post sur LMeta que j'ai trouvé sur Reddit

Lmeta used to be nice as that she could make a "tanky" team that could stall and also hit hard. She was also the unbinder of choice, being pretty much one of the only unbindable unbinders that also had a strong active with good stats and awakenings.
But then each color got their own unbinders, and all did better jobs and had better awakenings. ACeres, AIsis/Bmeta, Ame Uevo... dark still has poverty unbinders though el mao.
Also there's ASakuya to consider. ASakuya pretty much invalidated LMeta in almost every case. She's a way better lead (unless you're farming but the Norns have risen up as the go to farming teams) in almost every situation, and is pretty much a better sub as well. Unless you're in a dungeon where a 6 turn unbind vs a 10 turn unbinder would make a huge difference, or for some reason need a 6-8~k heal as well, ASakuya's better stats and awakenings pretty much always give her the edge.
First we have to consider what LMeta's identity is. To me, as a sub she's supposed to be the best cleric possible. Unbindable, and had one of the best bind clears with a neat little heal to keep yourself sustained. As a leader, she was supposed to offer a tanky team that had decent unconditional damage. However cards have overtaken her and we're in a meta where heal isn't nearly as useful. I'm going to reference ASakuya quickly to make a good comparison. ASakuya's identity was a strong quad color lead that also had solid utility. Her Awoken Evo capitalized on this very well. The damage isn't as high as Anubis or even stuff like AYomi but it's a lot more consistent and has better utility.
With that defined, let's try relegating LMeta to a sub. For her to be successful, she has to be able beat ASakuya's pool of awakenings, and come off stronger as a cleric. Possible awakenings we can add:
A Skillboost. First light monster with 3SB!
Either OE, TPA, or Row. OE would be the safest option, TPA would seem a little token (but I can see GH doing that) and Row would make Light row users pretty happy
SBR. I think this would be a huge buff.
Time Extend...? Feels a bit token and is treading into Utility instead of Heal.
Alright, not bad. What about the AS?
5 (+ ?) turn unbind. I actually don't know what most monsters bind for, but I'm pretty sure 5 should be good enough to get rid of almost all binds, save for the 10 turn binds.
Heal buffed to %? 50% Heal - Full Heal? Or would that be stepping on Ama's toes?
Shield would be interesting. Would definitely solidify her as a defensive sub.
Orb Enhance would give her more of an Offensive-Defensive stance. Though that would lead to a slightly conflicting AS: Do I want to unbind, or enhance? One could argue that's a versatile AS though.
Haste. Pretty token, but it's something.
Anything else? I think making her L/D att would be a decent buff. The dark typing would cover a lot, and can bait binds. Wouldn't change her typing. Maybe add some more HP or ATK.
Okay so what's I can see LMeta as a sub. More SB, one offensive awakening, SBR. Better active with an additional effect added. L/D att. Slightly better base stats. Nothing life changing but a solid buff for her to be a sub.
But what about her as a Leader? Her original identity is a tanky leader with half-unconditional decent damage and can stall.This is really hard to consider because it'd be too easy to step on other unconditional leaders toes. I'll try going through a few options
We could just say fuck it and make her something like the ShivaDra for Healers. 20.25-25x at max HP down to 16x at 50% HP. Same HP multiplier. Give her a TPA as an awakening or something and call it day.
On the other hand we could capitalize on her tankiness. This is slightly hard because Healers naturally have the worst stats outside of RCV, but let's see what could be done
Either a Global damage resist or a "Match in Cross" sort of thing. 20-30% damage resistance for global, 35% for Cross.
Increase the multiplier to 1.35-1.5x. But now we're just playing footsies with DMeta...?
Add something interesting like this: When below 50% HP, any attack that would kill, you only take 35% of that damage. Makes her a niche puesdo resist cheese lead. You can double pair to only take 12% damage from fatal attacks when below 50% and stall for days. You'd have a better damage multiplier over the Awoken Greek but you'd trade it off by having your resist only kick in when you're below 50% HP and taking heavy damage.
I really don't know. Trying add another HP unconditional lead into the game is too weird for me between the Norns, DMeta, and the new HP based unconditional leads (Like Batman and the HxH cards). What do you guys think? Is sub LMeta the way to go? Or leader? Maybe both? What do you think can be done with her.

Très franchement,faut buff LMeta,elle sert plus à grand chose.De nouveaux awos seraient pas de trop.

je suis tombé sur ce build pour U&Y split uvo

http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/simulator.asp?q=2279.99.1.99.99.99.9..2385.99.1.99.99.99.7..2281.99.1.99.99.99.7..1217.99.1.99.99.99.6..2325.99.1.99.99.99.8..2279.99.1.99.99.99.9

le mec tapait du 10M en huit combos avec +5/-/+1/+297/+297/+297

Petite question.
Est-ce Worth de dépenser 1 jewel Dark et Fire pour U.evo Izanami et la mettre à la place de Venus L/D ? (pour une team Kali).

Je pense que oui mais il faudra la max skill.

Pas mal team U&Y après je pense qu'il y a plus optimisé.

Yep gohan, izanami est un musthave, c'est S tiers en sub, tu pourras t'en servir dans plusieurs team (la mienne est lvl max U.evo, juste pas encore maxskill, faudra attendre le retour du bowl donjon)

Diza est géniale, elle rends tout simplement ma team Horus ou lkali viable pour du contenu "end Game"
Le fait quelle soit max skill est, je trouve, primordial, ca compense le manque de +eggs aussi dans certains cas.

Le Black Bowl est disponible dans les coins dungeons jusqu'à la fin du mois SpyX.
Pour moi elle est formidable dans la team Durga que je n'utilise jamais.

Pour farmer Iza, vaut mieux faire son donj, si possible pendant un event, c'est pas plus compliqué et en plus, on a des chances de dropper un jewel ^^

Yep, mais ça reste un bon compromis, la j'ai rien de particulier à faire comme donjon, donc hop +3 boss droppés

Dans le doute ou quand t'as rien à faire, tu farmes KoG, stou !
(ou alors des Coin qui rapporte du vrai XP pour monter de rank et xp ses monstre et gagner des stones)

Des que j'ai le dark mask je l'Uevo alors.

Nap Je farmais les +egg pendant l'event x3 avec KotG et ocean of heaven, mais l'event x3 a disparu depuis hier

Mon awoken ra est dans les +250

Dans le doute, farm encore ! :D

Même quand c'est pas en x3 d'ailleurs !
Quand on est en x 3, on peut pas farmer kog à longueur de journées toute la semaine ! On est obligé de faire les donj en x 2 et ils valent vachement moins d'xp ! :D
(et au passage, OoH, c'est pourrite ! KoG fait plus d'xp, donc plus de lvl up donc plus de stam donc plus de +eggs ! :D et les drops sont meilleurs ^^)

Vous pensez quoi de cette team? http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/simulator.asp?q=2253.99.1.0.0.0.8..1670.99.1.0.0.0.5..2265.99.1.0.0.0.4..2384.99.1.0.0.0.7..2180.99.1.0.0.0.5..2253.99.1.99.99.99.8

J'ai pas le shiva dragon, je suis à peine dans les 150k si je vends, mais avec le PCGF on sait jamais. La question est: est ce que shiva dragon est jouable sans ares? Sur le papier ma team semble forte, j'ai du gros burst, de l'orb enhance, du shield... mais pas de spécialisation row/tpa (6 rows, 8 TPA)

En soit, je pense que je suis plus proche de la team yomidragon que shiva dragon mais ayant deja une team awoken ra pour le late game, je cherche plus un lead simple à jouer (et si possible pouvant faire tous les challenges donjons, l'arena je m'en fou)

J'en pense que si tu as déjà une vraie team endgame (ra) shivadra serait un lead de Farm cher payé.

Comme Rep !
Quand on investit 300kMP, vaut mieux avoir le reste de la team déjà prete et optimisée ^^

Sinon, c'est du gaspillage ^^

@Nap > tu farmes KoG avec quelle équipe?

Urd / awoken Shiva / Cao Cao / Awoken Leilan / BL Apollo / Awoken Minerva ^^

Ça passe a tous les coups et c'est pas trop dur a faire comme team sachant que beaucoup sont remplaçables ^^
La base de la team c'est Urd / awoken Minerva avec des orb changers, un enhancer et un damage boost.

Je viens de voir que la nouvelle U.Evo de Kenshiro est super balez avec Awoken Shiva ! Ça passe le multiplier à x30.4.