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La second secret est là :

violent_ken
violent_ken
Niveau 10
04 mai 2006 à 14:17:06

Pour mettre un terme aux rumeurs de Z_chardonet, je suis allé sur
http://www.uspto.gov/index.html qui gère toutes les marques déposées.
J´ai cherché à Visor ( :sarcastic: ) et, Ô surprise, ce nom n´est pas déposé par Nintendo... :hum:

Bref, qu´importe.
Mo_on poste ensuite le lien du trademark de la Wii : cela prouve que le nom est officiel.
Mais au dela de tout çà, regardez sur quel objets s´applique le trademark :

"Goods and Services IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Adapters for use in connecting computer and video game machines with communication devices, namely, telephones, cellular telephones, PCS telephones, wireless telephones and pagers; computer memories used to store audio and video data; cartridges, optical discs, DVDs, audio tapes, CDs featuring entertainment content; computer game cartridges; computer game consoles; computer game controllers; computer game equipment containing memory devices, namely, cartridges and discs; computer game peripherals; computer game programs; computer game software; computer hardware for accessing global computer and communication networks; computer software for accessing and browsing global computer and communication networks; computer software for compressing and decompressing data and video images, word text editing and for composing, transmitting and receiving email; computer software for use in connecting computer and video game machines with communication devices, namely, telephones, cellular telephones, PCS telephones, wireless telephones and pagers; electronic game cartridges; electronic game consoles; electronic game controllers; electronic game discs; electronic game machines; electronic game memory devices; electronic game programs; electronic game software; electronic units for receipt, storage and/or transmission of text, graphics and multimedia content; electronic video game machines for use with a monitor or television; eyeglass cases; eyeglasses; communication devices, namely, computers, video game machines, all enabled for receipt and transmission of information, namely, data, text, graphics, images, still and motion pictures, sound, music, audio, video, video games, signals, and messages; computer and disc memories for storing computer and video game software in electronic format; interactive electronic game machines; interactive video game cartridges; interactive video game consoles. interactive video game discs; interactive video game programs; interactive video game software; magnetic trading cards and discs featuring game program and data content; musical sound recordings; spectacles; sunglasses; video game cartridges; video game consoles; video game controllers and joysticks; video game discs; video game machines connectable to communications devices, namely, telephones, cellular telephones, PCS telephones, wireless telephones and pagers; video game machine accessories, namely, carry cases, battery chargers, auxiliary lights, screen magnifiers, digital cameras, printers, computer stylus; video game machines with memory devices, namely, flash memory; video game memory cards; video game operating system software, programs and utility programs; video game players; video game programs; video game software; video player for playing audio/visual content, including movies and television programs which are stored on electronic memory devices; wireless communication devices, namely, computers, video game machines, all enabled for receipt and transmission of information, namely, data, text, graphics, images, still and motion pictures, sound, music, audio, video, video games, signals, and messages; writing instruments for use with computer/video game machine touch screen displays, namely, computer stylus; video game machines; game programs for video game machines; electronic circuits; optical discs, magnetic discs, optical - magnetic discs, magnetic tapes, magnetic cards, ROM cartridges, ROM cassettes, ROM cards, memory cartridges, memory cards, CD ROM, DVD-ROM and other memory means for memory programs for video game machines; games and other parts and accessories for video game machines; video games intended for a wide audience; programs for video games intended for a wide audience. electronic circuits, optical discs, magnetic discs, optical - magnetic discs, magnetic tapes, magnetic cards, ROM cartridges, ROM cassettes, ROM cards, memory cartridges, memory cards, CD ROM, DVD-ROM, and other memory means for memory programs for video games intended for a wide audience; controllers and joysticks for video games intended for a wide audience; other parts and accessories for video games intended for a wide audience; programs for hand-held game machines with liquid crystal display; electronic circuits, optical discs, magnetic discs, optical - magnetic discs, magnetic tapes, magnetic cards, ROM cartridges, ROM cassettes, ROM cards, memory cartridges, memory cards, CD ROM, DVD-ROM, and other memory parts for memory programs for hand-held game with a liquid crystal display; electronic computer circuits, optical discs, magnetic discs, optical - magnetic discs, magnetic tapes, magnetic cards, ROM cartridges, ROM cassettes, ROM cards, memory cartridges, memory cards, CD ROM, DVD-ROM and other memory means for memory computer programs; computer programs; other machines and electronic apparatus and their parts; electronic circuits, optical discs, magnetic discs, optical - magnetic discs, magnetic tapes, magnetic cards, ROM cartridges, ROM cassettes, ROM cards, memory cartridges, memory cards, CD ROM, DVD-ROM and other memory means; laboratory apparatus and instruments; pedometer; other machines and instruments for measuring or testing; machines and apparatus for energy distribution or control; energy batteries and battery measuring apparatus and testing; electrical or magnetic wires and cables; photographic machines and apparatus; cinematographic machines and apparatus; optical apparatus and instruments; spectacles; glasses, namely, eyeglasses and lorgnette; rescue apparatus and instruments. cell phones; wrist straps for cell phones; other parts and accessories for cell phones; other machines and apparatus for telecommunication; recorded compact discs, other phonographic discs; electronic circuits and programs for automatic performance recorded on CD ROM for electronic musical instruments; metronomes; slot machines; simulators for training; simulators for driving vehicles training; converters rotating; modifiers surface; electric irons; electric hair curling irons; electric buzzers; warning triangles for vehicles break downs; road sign of a luminous or mechanical nature; fire hand drills; hand drills for leaks of gas; gloves for protection against accidents; fire extinguishers; fireproof hydrants; fireproof in rain apparatus; fire alarms; protective helmets; protective clothing; fire masks; gas masks; magnetic nucleuses; electric lighters for automobiles; wire resistance electrodes; jigs for welding; cinematographic exposed films; exposed films for slides; frames for photographic transparencies; recorded video discs and video tapes; electronic publications; apparatus for filling stations; vending machines; coin operated gates for parking areas; cash registers; machines for counting and sorting coins; photocopiers; hand operated apparatus for calculation; design or squirting apparatus; date stamping machines; office machines; punch cards; voting machines; invoicing machines; stamp control machines; belts for weights for immersions; wet suits for immersions; protective helmets for sports; machines and apparatus for immersions; regulators for immersions; machines for electric arc welding; machines for metal cutting; electric door openers; ear plugs; video game machines; game programs for video game machines; electronic circuits. optical discs, magnetic discs, optical - magnetic discs, magnetic tapes, magnetic cards, ROM cartridges, ROM cassettes, ROM cards, memory cartridges, memory cards, CD ROM, DVD-ROM and other memory means for memory programs for video game machines; games and other parts and accessories for video game machines; video games intended for a wide audience; programs for video games intended for a wide audience; electronic circuits, optical discs, magnetic discs, optical - magnetic discs, magnetic tapes, magnetic cards, ROM cartridges, ROM cassettes, ROM cards, memory cartridges, memory cards, CD ROM, DVD-ROM, and other memory means for memory programs for video games intended for a wide audience; controllers and joysticks for video games intended for a wide audience; other parts and accessories for video games intended for a wide audience; programs for hand-held game machines with liquid crystal display; electronic circuits, optical discs, magnetic discs, optical - magnetic discs, magnetic tapes, magnetic cards, ROM cartridges, ROM cassettes, ROM cards, memory cartridges, memory cards, CD ROM, DVD-ROM, and other memory parts for memory programs for hand-held game with a liquid crystal display; electronic computer circuits, optical discs, magnetic discs, optical - magnetic discs, magnetic tapes, magnetic cards, ROM cartridges, ROM cassettes, ROM cards, memory cartridges, memory cards, CD ROM, DVD-ROM and other memory means for memory computer programs; computer programs; other machines and electronic apparatus and their parts. electronic circuits, optical discs, magnetic discs, optical - magnetic discs, magnetic tapes, magnetic cards, ROM cartridges, ROM cassettes, ROM cards, memory cartridges, memory cards, CD ROM, DVD-ROM and other memory means; laboratory apparatus and instruments; pedometer; other machines and instruments for measuring or testing; machines and apparatus for energy distribution or control; energy batteries and battery measuring apparatus and testing; electrical or magnetic wires and cables; photographic machines and apparatus; cinematographic machines and apparatus; optical apparatus and instruments; spectacles; glasses, namely eyeglasses and lorgnette; rescue apparatus and instruments; cell phones; wrist straps for cell phones; other parts and accessories for cell phones; other machines and apparatus for telecommunication; recorded compact discs, other phonographic discs; electronic circuits and programs for automatic performance recorded on CD ROM for electronic musical instruments; metronomes; slot machines; simulators for training; simulators for driving vehicles training; converters rotating; modifiers surface; electric irons; electric hair curling irons; electric buzzers; warning triangles for vehicles break downs; road sign of a luminous or mechanical nature; fire hand drills; hand drills for leaks of gas; gloves for protection against accidents; fire extinguishers; fireproof hydrants; fireproof in rain apparatus; fire alarms; protective helmets; protective clothing; fire masks; gas masks; magnetic nucleuses; electric lighters for automobiles; wire resistance electrodes; jigs for welding; cinematographic exposed films; exposed films for slides; frames for photographic transparencies; recorded video discs and video tapes; electronic publications; apparatus for filling stations; vending machines; coin operated gates for parking areas; cash registers; machines for counting and sorting coins; photocopiers. hand operated apparatus for calculation; design or squirting apparatus; date stamping machines; office machines; punch cards; voting machines; invoicing machines; stamp control machines; belts for weights for immersions; wet suits for immersions; protective helmets for sports; machines and apparatus for immersions; regulators for immersions; machines for electric arc welding; machines for metal cutting; electric door openers; ear plugs; video game machines; game programs for video game machines; electronic circuits; optical discs, magnetic discs, optical - magnetic discs, magnetic tapes, magnetic cards, ROM cartridges, ROM cassettes, ROM cards, memory cartridges, memory cards, CD ROM, DVD-ROM and other memory means for memory programs for video game machines; games and other parts and accessories for video game machines; video games intended for a wide audience; programs for video games intended for a wide audience; electronic circuits, optical discs, magnetic discs, optical - magnetic discs, magnetic tapes, magnetic cards, ROM cartridges, ROM cassettes, ROM cards, memory cartridges, memory cards, CD ROM, DVD-ROM, and other memory means for memory programs for video games intended for a wide audience; controllers and joysticks for video games intended for a wide audience; other parts and accessories for video games intended for a wide audience; programs for hand-held game machines with liquid crystal display; electronic circuits, optical discs, magnetic discs, optical - magnetic discs, magnetic tapes, magnetic cards, ROM cartridges, ROM cassettes, ROM cards, memory cartridges, memory cards, CD ROM, DVD-ROM, and other memory parts for memory programs for hand-held game with a liquid crystal display. electronic computer circuits, optical discs, magnetic discs, optical - magnetic discs, magnetic tapes, magnetic cards, ROM cartridges, ROM cassettes, ROM cards, memory cartridges, memory cards, CD ROM, DVD-ROM and other memory means for memory computer programs; computer programs; other machines and electronic apparatus and their parts; electronic circuits, optical discs, magnetic discs, optical - magnetic discs, magnetic tapes, magnetic cards, ROM cartridges, ROM cassettes, ROM cards, memory cartridges, memory cards, CD ROM, DVD-ROM and other memory means; laboratory apparatus and instruments; pedometer; other machines and instruments for measuring or testing; machines and apparatus for energy distribution or control; energy batteries and battery measuring apparatus and testing; electrical or magnetic wires and cables; photographic machines and apparatus; cinematographic machines and apparatus; optical apparatus and instruments; spectacles; glasses, namely eyeglasses and lorgnette; rescue apparatus and instruments; cell phones; wrist straps for cell phones; other parts and accessories for cell phones; other machines and apparatus for telecommunication; recorded compact discs, other phonographic discs; electronic circuits and programs for automatic performance recorded on CD ROM for electronic musical instruments; metronomes; slot machines; simulators for training; simulators for driving vehicles training; converters rotating; modifiers surface; electric irons; electric hair curling irons; electric buzzers; warning triangles for vehicles break downs; road sign of a luminous or mechanical nature; fire hand drills; hand drills for leaks of gas; gloves for protection against accidents; fire extinguishers; fireproof hydrants; fireproof in rain apparatus; fire alarms; protective helmets; protective clothing; fire masks; gas masks; magnetic nucleuses; electric lighters for automobiles. wire resistance electrodes; jigs for welding; cinematographic exposed films; exposed films for slides; frames for photographic transparencies; recorded video discs and video tapes; electronic publications; apparatus for filling stations; vending machines; coin operated gates for parking areas; cash registers; machines for counting and sorting coins; photocopiers; hand operated apparatus for calculation; design or squirting apparatus; date stamping machines; office machines; punch cards; voting machines; invoicing machines; stamp control machines; belts for weights for immersions; wet suits for immersions; protective helmets for sports; machines and apparatus for immersions; regulators for immersions; machines for electric arc welding; machines for metal cutting; electric door openers; ear plugs"

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=lt14la.9.1

Vous y trouverez notamment "game machine touch screen displays"....
Je vous laisse chercher, si second secret il y a, dedans ces mots il est :ok:

Mo_on
Mo_on
Niveau 10
04 mai 2006 à 14:22:19

6ème ligne, en partant du bas, vous trouverez un nom bien intriguant :

"Photocopiers"

:o))

violent_ken
violent_ken
Niveau 10
04 mai 2006 à 14:23:49

On trouve aussi "pedometer; other machines and instruments for measuring or testing;"
:ouch:

Foxforce
Foxforce
Niveau 9
04 mai 2006 à 14:23:49

il y a aussi
machines for counting and sorting coins
de là à penser que la wii fera machine à sous il n´y a qu´un pas MDR

uchiha38
uchiha38
Niveau 10
04 mai 2006 à 14:24:26

bizar,au début,il parle de pouvoir relier un ordinateur,un telephone portable

Z_chardonet_
Z_chardonet_
Niveau 4
04 mai 2006 à 14:24:57

interactive electronic game machines

seto-letitan
seto-letitan
Niveau 10
04 mai 2006 à 14:25:55

Vivement mardi! qu´on en finisse :fou:

Ca va etre long :mort:

Cyraxe
Cyraxe
Niveau 7
04 mai 2006 à 14:26:19

Fiouu j´ai commencé a lire mais j´avais pas vu qu´il y en avait autant!!!

Je prefere attendre quelque jour et decouvrir le 2eme secret bien tranquilement installé dans mon fauteuil!! :-)))

uchiha38
uchiha38
Niveau 10
04 mai 2006 à 14:26:31

j´ai limpression qu´il ya pas mal de connerie la dedans

machine pour compter l´argent
pour ouvrir des porte de garage
alarme anti feu
casque protecteur
...
jen passe et des meilleur!

uchiha38
uchiha38
Niveau 10
04 mai 2006 à 14:27:16

wii,le gros bluff de nintendo???

Mo_on
Mo_on
Niveau 10
04 mai 2006 à 14:28:35

Ces nombreux noms sont seuleument là pour garantir et éviter à tout autre société d´utiliser ce terme :-)))

uchiha38
uchiha38
Niveau 10
04 mai 2006 à 14:29:14

donc pas de second secret la dedans violent_ken!

Foxforce
Foxforce
Niveau 9
04 mai 2006 à 14:29:43

ca peut avoir un rapport avec les brevets pour protéger sa manette ?
Genre "il est interdit de créer une manette aux fonctionnalités similaires en utilisant des systèmes électroniques utilisables pour : alarme antifeu, ouvrir une porte de garage, pomper une idée de plus à nintendo, casque protecteur, machine pour compter de l´argent, pomper une idée de plus à nintendo,...

violent_ken
violent_ken
Niveau 10
04 mai 2006 à 14:32:41

C´est vrai qu´il y a vraiment des tucs bizarres ...

"IC 028. US 022 023 038 050. G & S: Action skill games; action type target games; arcade games; arcade-type electronic video games; articulated and non-articulated dolls; bath toys; board games; card games; cases for play accessories; carrying cases for hand-held video game systems; children´s play cosmetics; Christmas tree ornaments; coin-operated video games; collectable toy figures; costume masks; crib mobiles; electric action toys; electronic game equipment with a watch function; electronic interactive board games; equipment sold as a unit for playing board games, card games; floating recreational lounge chairs; flying discs; golf balls; hand-held games with liquid crystal displays; hand-held pinball games; hand-held units for playing electronic games; hand-held units for playing electronic games in the nature of a virtual pet; hand-held units for playing video games; hand-held video game systems, comprising hand-held units for playing video games and associated game cartridges or game memory cards packaged as a unit; inflatable float cushions, mattresses and pads for recreational use; inflatable toys; inflatable vinyl figures; in-line skates; interactive board games; jacks; jigsaw puzzles; jump ropes; kites; manipulative games; manipulative puzzles; marbles; mobiles for children; music box toys; musical toys; nonelectric hand-held action skill games; paper dolls; parlor games; party favors in the nature of small toys; pinball game machines; play figures; playing card cases; playing cards; playground balls; plush dolls; plush toys; positionable toy figures; promotional game cards; pull toys; punching toys; puppets; push toys; ride-on toys; role playing games; roller skates; rubber action balls; rubber character toys; rubber playing balls; rubber sports balls; skateboards; snow boards. snow skis; spinning tops; sports balls; stand alone video game machines; stuffed toys; swimming aids, namely pool rings and arm floats for recreational use; toy action balls; toy action figures and accessories therefor; toy airplanes and helicopters; toy bakeware and cookware; toy balloons; toy banks; toy binoculars; toy building blocks; toy cap pistols; toy carrying cases; toy clocks and watches; toy construction playsets; toy dart guns; toy decorative wind socks; toy figurines; toy key chains with and without sound device; toy mobiles; toy musical instruments; toy punching bags; toy tea sets; toy vehicles; toy whistles; toys for pets; trading card games; train sets; water squirting toys; wind-up toys; yo-yos; hand-held games with liquid crystal display; adapters for hand-held games with liquid crystal display; parts and accessories for hand-held games with liquid crystal display; playing cards; toys with playing cards and related accessories; other toys; card toys and their accessories; machines and apparatus for games; machines and apparatus for amusement to be used in amusement parks excluding video game machines; dolls; games; GO games; Japanese chess games; Japanese card games; dice; Japanese dice games called Sugoroku; beakers games; diamond games; chess games; equipment for checkers; apparatus for magician tricks; dominos; Japanese playing cards called Hanafuda; Mah Jong equipment; tools for playing pool; toys for domestic pets; apparatus for sports; fishing tackle; tools for the collection of insects; hand-held games with liquid crystal display; adapters for hand-held games with liquid crystal display; parts and accessories for hand-held games with liquid crystal display. playing cards; toys with playing cards and related accessories; other toys; card toys and their accessories; machines and apparatus for games; machines and apparatus for amusement to be used in amusement parks excluding video game machines; dolls; games; GO games; Japanese chess games; Japanese card games; dice; Japanese dice games called Sugoroku; beakers games; diamond games; chess games; equipment for checkers; apparatus for magician tricks; dominos; Japanese playing cards called Hanafuda; Mah Jong equipment; tools for playing pool; toys for domestic pets; apparatus for sports; fishing tackle; tools for the collection of insects; hand-held games with liquid crystal display; adapters for hand-held games with liquid crystal display; parts and accessories for hand-held games with liquid crystal display; playing cards; toys with playing cards and related accessories; other toys; card toys and their accessories; machines and apparatus for games; machines and apparatus for amusement to be used in amusement parks excluding video game machines; dolls; games; GO games; Japanese chess games; Japanese card games; dice; Japanese dice games called Sugoroku; beakers games; diamond games; chess games; equipment for checkers; apparatus for magician tricks; dominos; Japanese playing cards called Hanafuda; Mah Jong equipment; tools for playing pool; toys for domestic pets; apparatus for sports; fishing tackle; tools for the collection of insects"

Pour comparaison avec le NGC
"IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: providing classes and seminars in the field of children´s entertainment; motion picture film production and distribution; theatrical booking agencies; live performances by a musical group; entertainment in the nature of theatrical productions; production of television programs; arranging and conducting sporting competitions, namely, automobile races; audio recording and production; providing fitness and exercise facilities; rental of motion picture projectors and accessories; rental of motion picture films; rental of video games; rental of toys; rental of books, namely, library services; rental of apparatus and instruments for amusement parks; providing a computer game that may be accessed network-wide by network users and also may be accessed by a satellite system, a digital or analog cable system, and/or a telecommunications network; providing online information and hints regarding electronic game programs and electronic game products; providing online news, and information regarding entertainment topics; and leasing and/or rental of game machines for online network games"
==> Beaucoup moins de termes...

Je vous laisse découvrir à PS3...
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=3v6cc1.6.2
(on y voit le logo)

Bon sang, c´est comme chercher une aiguille dans 69! bottes de foin !

Foxforce
Foxforce
Niveau 9
04 mai 2006 à 14:50:17

lol, m´étonne pas pour la PS2.
Si on écoutait sony, on pourrait détourner une fusée de la NASA avec leur console.

lyxx
lyxx
Niveau 10
04 mai 2006 à 15:01:50

à mon avis les utilisations mentionnées ki sont sans rapport avec le jeu video sont dues aux spécificités de la machine. je m´explike il y a des fonctions comme le bluetooth ki permettrait effectivement de mettre en relation avec un mobile si cette fonction est "dévérouillée". La machine si je la bidouille je peux la transformer en calculatrice effectivement. donc ce sont des utilisations ki ne sont pas destinées à etre exploitées mais ke l´on peut bidouiller. Si je veux la transformer en machine reliée à un réseau de paris en ligne je peux théorikement le faire....

Lyonnel4
Lyonnel4
Niveau 10
04 mai 2006 à 15:03:52

si si, il y a visor, mais dans la partie "vetements" :) (visor= visière)

alex78cast
alex78cast
Niveau 6
04 mai 2006 à 15:19:11

Ca ressemble plus à un grand bazard qu´autre chose : pour un peu, on pourrait même relier la WII à une machine à café ...

:o))

En tout cas, c´est loin de me convaincre pour le nom de Wii cette histoire !! ! :doute:

mr-bush
mr-bush
Niveau 32
04 mai 2006 à 15:29:55

Il y a tout ça juste pour empêcher tous ceux qui travail dans les "industries" citées de prendre le nom Wii.
On aura jamais de photocopieuses Wii mais on peu avoir du PQ ....
Tout ceux qui font des produit cité dans la liste n´ont pas le droit d´utiliser Wii!

c´est pas ça?

mr-bush
mr-bush
Niveau 32
04 mai 2006 à 15:30:49

Mince Mo-on l´a déjà dit et mieux que moi ...
Je lirais tout la prochaine fois ....

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