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The Dark Knight - Christopher Nolan

_Obi63_
_Obi63_
Niveau 10
14 juillet 2008 à 13:04:52

insight :d) Nicholson a tellement participé à la légende de ce personnage que d'après moi c'est un rôle oscarisable (surement un des seuls rôles oscarisables des films de super héros)

_leloup_
_leloup_
Niveau 9
14 juillet 2008 à 17:52:40

pour parler du film le 1er batman été pas mal jattend de voir celui la pr le joker et puis quelque chose me dit qu'il va etre un chef d'oeuvre ! a quand le nouveau batman nex gen sur les consoles de salon ?

leprodiss
leprodiss
Niveau 10
14 juillet 2008 à 17:56:38

Polo_lesi Posté le 14 juillet 2008 à 12:44:05 LeProdiss : En même temps, traverser l'Afrique a 16 ans pour voir un film...

Faut faire des sacrifices cinéphiliques dans la vie :noel:

god-given
god-given
Niveau 10
14 juillet 2008 à 17:59:32

merde j'viens de voir la BA francaise a la télé, c'est dingue comme ils ont reussit a enlever tout ce qui faisait la force du joker en changeant la voix...

nan mais enlevez lui aussi son maquillage pour la VF, on est plus a ca près :o))

mort_sanglante_
mort_sanglante_
Niveau 10
14 juillet 2008 à 20:20:58

perso je trouve la VF pas si mal par rapport a ce qu on avait eu
au tout début pour le première BA française ,sinon c est vrai que c est étonnant de ne pas avoir de jeu video sur aucune console pour un film autant attendu :doute:

insight
insight
Niveau 10
16 juillet 2008 à 22:55:34

J'ai (enfin) vu la BA du Dark Knight sur grand écran et j'ai pas aimé du tout la VF...Que ce soit celle de Bale ou de Ledger (surtout de Ledger), bref déçu :(

insight
insight
Niveau 10
17 juillet 2008 à 00:57:00

The Dark Knight is stunning, in every sense the word. Whether you look at the acting, the directing, the writing, or any other aspect of the movie, it's hard to find a weak point.

Nolan returns to do another incredible job at directing, and once again raises the bar for the Batman series. He creates a perfect balance between having The Dark Knight be a drama about the characters in it and an action-packed crime saga.

The acting alone is terrific. Christian Bale is a natural as Bruce Wayne, and also makes the best Batman I've seen yet, and by his side is Michael Caine, who just seems to fit perfectly as Alfred. Maggie Gyllenhaal does quite well as Rachel and Aaron Eckhart pulls off the transformation from Harvey Dent to Two-Face. Gary Oldman playing Gordon deserves an honorable mention. And then there's Heath Ledger, whose performance alone is nothing short of amazing. A few years ago most people would've said that he would be best known for and remembered by his starring role in Brokeback Mountain. Not anymore.

There's a constant internal struggle for Bruce Wayne, who does all he can to keep the difference between himself and Batman, and the difference between what is right and what has to be done. And all the while chaos reigns in the streets of Gotham, compliments of the Joker, who seems to be the one man who can bring down Batman.

All in all, there is nothing disappointing about The Dark Knight. For a movie that's two and a half hours long, there isn't a dull moment. Living up to the expectations and hype seemed impossible for it to do, but somehow The Dark Knight not only does, but surpasses it.

Extrait d'IMDB, bref je pense que je vais déserter le forum jusqu'à la sortie du Dark Knight parce qu'a mon avis y'aura des kékos qui vont spoiler.

[Le-Doc]
[Le-Doc]
Niveau 10
17 juillet 2008 à 01:37:31

The Dark Knight is stunning, in every sense the word. Whether you look at the acting, the directing, the writing, or any other aspect of the movie, it's hard to find a weak point.

:bave:

Rusher_is_back
Rusher_is_back
Niveau 8
17 juillet 2008 à 12:01:39

bah, je sais pas, mais perso, la VF me fait pas gerber oO OK, elle est bien moins bonne que la Vo, mais elle reste tres bonne je trouve... Apres, c'est vrai que je me contente de peu, mais je pense pas qu'elle va me gacher le film ^^

insight
insight
Niveau 10
17 juillet 2008 à 12:09:17

The best film of 2008 so far. A masterpiece.

Wow. Just wow. And I thought Batman Begins was excellent. This... this piece of art... its PHENOMENAL!! From the scale, to the acting, the atmosphere, the music, the action, it's all art. I have not experienced this level of greatness in the cinema for a long time. This film is the darkest Batman, as well as one of the darkest, violent and gripping films, ever made.

I'll start off with the actors. Christian Bale has done a tremendous job as our beloved Caped Crusader, who has a flawed personality that hangs on the balance between righteous and crazy. His perception of justice causes an emotional and personal shift, whether he is a rich guy who fights crime in a suit or just a regular guy who is sick of all the injustice in Gotham City and decides to give the psychopaths a dose of their own medicine. Because of this, and Bale's tremendous acting, the Bruce Wayne character is justified, and we, the audience, emphasizes with Bale's flawed hero more than Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer, George (shudder) Clooney, Kevin Conroy, or God forbid Adam West, ever will. If there was an excellent Batman, this is the real deal. The theme of righteousness and insanity is played well with his character here.

But of course, the real star of the show is the late and great Heath Ledger, who steals almost every scene he's in as the villainous Joker. This Joker is not like the other renditions; he is the best. Downright evil, corrupt, insane, psychotic, terrifying. In every sense of those aforementioned words. More scary than funny, he shows audiences the Joker is undoubtedly Batman's most nefarious foe and his perfect nemesis, challenging him all the way. With a cynical smile, he proclaims in a scene where Batman is a freak to the public, like the Joker himself. This also explains the balance of righteousness that Bruce Wayne is going through. The Joker is downright evil, and Ledger makes this performance legendary. I agree with the critics, sign me up for the petition where he deserves a posthumous Oscar win.

The rest of the cast is excellent and star-studded. Aaron Eckhart does his Harvey Dent character justice, with a strong sense of righteousness up his sleeve, as well as Bruce Wayne's rival in love. His acting is strong here. Maggie Gylenhaal is a great replacement for Katie Holmes as Wayne's love interest Rachel Dawes, as she shows more sensitive and caring side towards Bruce, other than Holmes' nearly flat performance. Michael Caine as Bruce Wayne's loyal butler Alfred delivers, as well as Morgan Freeman as the CEO of Wayne Enterprises. Gary Oldman does an excellent portrayal of Lt. James Gordon, who aids Batman in his quest for justice. And a special mention goes to Eric Roberts as a crime lord, who surprisingly does a great acting job. The rest of the cast can take a bow, they can be proud of their being in this film.

The cinematography is possibly the most sublime scenes ever chosen. Gotham and Hong Kong are wide, and yet, there is this dark aura of crime and corruption all around them. It really blends in well with the film, giving it a distinct and unique look. Quite simply, this is the best Gotham city in any Batman rendition. Wally Pfister has done an excellent job.

To accompany the atmosphere is the tremendous music score by movie music maestros, James Newton Howard and Hans Zimmer. With talents like these, the score is unforgettable. It is dark and moody at times, and throbbing and glorious yet dark during the action sequences. It deserves an Oscar.

The very loyal screenplay is written very, very well by Jonathan Nolan (director's brother), who has done a masterful job. The characters are (pardon the pun) rich in character and the story has not a flaw in it. For a comic book film adaptation, this film is not at all fantasy-like. It is quite realistic in a way and this is what gives the film more credibility. Also, the fact that the script is realistic is unbelievable, as you expect a superhero film when you walk in the cinema, and walk out realizing you have just seen an epic crime saga. Yes, CRIME SAGA. It deserves to be mentioned in the same sentence with "GoodFellas", "Heat", "The Untouchables" and even "The Godfather". I kid you not, this film has the power. The fact that this is an epic is further proved by the film's length - 2 hours and 32 minutes. Yes, it's that long. But it goes by so fast because you end up wishing for more.

But of course, none of this is possible without the genius that is the other Nolan, director Christopher. As per Memento, he knows how to direct a film. The dramatic scenes are engaging and the action sequences are crisp, thrilling, and will blow you out of your seat. Nolan's direction is tense, whip-smart, kinetic and smart. All of the action sequences are realistic and "boombastic" and CGI is used only when necessary (Steve Spielberg and George Lucas, take note). The new vehicle and some gadgets look cool and stylish and do not take away the film's credibility and realism. There are a lot of action sequences to boot, some of them combining themes from above. You will have to see them to believe them. The brothers Nolan have done it again.

In short, it's a masterpiece. One that will knock you out of your seat. It is the best Batman film ever, the best superhero film ever and the best film of 2008 thus far. If there ever was a possibility of a summer film winning Best Picture at the Oscars (like Titanic and Lord Of The Rings), this will join their ranks. It is rightfully deserved. Do yourselves a favor and see this piece of art. Repeated viewings highly recommended.

Overall quality: 9.994/10

A chialer de joie :snif2:

insight
insight
Niveau 10
17 juillet 2008 à 13:15:33

Putain le mec dit que c'est une grande saga criminelle à ranger aux côtés des Affranchis, des intouchables et du Parrain :ouch:
De plus peu de SFX en images de synthèse (ça fait très plaisir). Bref Ledger est époustouflant dans son rôle, les autres acteurs excellent tous, un chef-d'oeuvre quoi...

-Tetsuo1
-Tetsuo1
Niveau 10
17 juillet 2008 à 18:29:13

J'ai un ami journaliste qui l'a vu en projo presse.
Selon lui, ça bouleverse carrément les codes du film de super-héros, ça atteint un niveau de maturité extrême, et les personnages ne montrent aucune limite.

Pour ceux qui s'attendaient à voir Double face 30 secondes à la fin, ce n'est pas le cas. Le perso est vraiment developpé.

Sinon il a qualifié le film de "tragédie politique", et pour finir de "anti-spiderman3" :rire:

_Obi63_
_Obi63_
Niveau 10
17 juillet 2008 à 19:54:42

Anti-Spiderman 3 ? Bonne nouvelle alors :ok:
Même si perso j'attends plus ce film comme un bon divertissement d'action que comme un No Country for Old men ou There will be blood

leprodiss
leprodiss
Niveau 10
17 juillet 2008 à 19:56:05

"anti-spiderman 3"?Ca va être une bouse?

:snif2:

_Obi63_
_Obi63_
Niveau 10
17 juillet 2008 à 20:10:21

Au contraire :oui:

leprodiss
leprodiss
Niveau 10
17 juillet 2008 à 20:12:56

Bon on va pas recommencer sur "est-ce que Spidey 3 est un bon film ou pas?"(la réponse est oui^^)^,d'autant plus que la comparaison doit se jouer sur le fond même du film.

_Obi63_
_Obi63_
Niveau 10
17 juillet 2008 à 21:15:11

Ok on commence pas, même si la réponse est non :-p

-Tetsuo1
-Tetsuo1
Niveau 10
17 juillet 2008 à 21:29:02

Disons qu'il est clair que The dark knight s'annonce plus mature, plus noir et infiniment moins niais que Spiderman 3, en tout cas sur le fond.

mort_sanglante_
mort_sanglante_
Niveau 10
17 juillet 2008 à 22:46:16

dans spiderman 3 il manque une bonne demi heure de venom en plus a la place de la bonne demi heure monopolisé trop souvant par mary jane

insight
insight
Niveau 10
18 juillet 2008 à 00:18:57

http://www.cinema-france.com/articles_critiques833_the-dark-knight.html

9/10, "le Chevalier Noir est clairement supérieur à son prédécesseur, tenant toutes ses promesses et pouvant aisément obtenir le statut de plus grand film de super héros jamais réalisé ! Le genre obtient enfin son chef-d'œuvre …"

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