Quelqu'un l'a lu ?
Ehrman en parle dans cet article de Time.com
https://time.com/5822598/jesus-really-said-heaven-hell/

Bon, à la base, je suis pas fan des idées du gars mais... là... je dois dire que c'est pas mal.

Up. Au moins ça relancera le débat sur le shéol.

Le 24 août 2020 à 14:31:31 Khlyst a écrit :
Up. Au moins ça relancera le débat sur le shéol.

Il y avait un débat sur ça ? Mince.

• The Hebrew Bible itself assumes that the dead are simply dead—that their body lies in the grave, and there is no consciousness, ever again. It is true that some poetic authors, for example in the Psalms, use the mysterious term “Sheol” to describe a person’s new location. But in most instances Sheol is simply a synonym for “tomb” or “grave.” It’s not a place where someone actually goes.

And so, traditional Israelites did not believe in life after death, only death after death.

Bart a quasi pompé sur jw.org

• Even though God is the ultimate ruler over all, he has temporarily relinquished control of this world for some mysterious reason. But the forces of evil have little time left. God is soon to intervene in earthly affairs to destroy everything and everyone that opposes him and to bring in a new realm for his true followers, a Kingdom of God, a paradise on earth. Most important, this new earthly kingdom will come not only to those alive at the time, but also to those who have died. Indeed, God will breathe life back into the dead, restoring them to an earthly existence. And God will bring all the dead back to life, not just the righteous.

Le 24 août 2020 à 16:00:51 Shonin a écrit :

Le 24 août 2020 à 14:31:31 Khlyst a écrit :
Up. Au moins ça relancera le débat sur le shéol.

Il y avait un débat sur ça ? Mince.

• The Hebrew Bible itself assumes that the dead are simply dead—that their body lies in the grave, and there is no consciousness, ever again. It is true that some poetic authors, for example in the Psalms, use the mysterious term “Sheol” to describe a person’s new location. But in most instances Sheol is simply a synonym for “tomb” or “grave.” It’s not a place where someone actually goes.

And so, traditional Israelites did not believe in life after death, only death after death.

Bart a quasi pompé sur jw.org

• Even though God is the ultimate ruler over all, he has temporarily relinquished control of this world for some mysterious reason. But the forces of evil have little time left. God is soon to intervene in earthly affairs to destroy everything and everyone that opposes him and to bring in a new realm for his true followers, a Kingdom of God, a paradise on earth. Most important, this new earthly kingdom will come not only to those alive at the time, but also to those who have died. Indeed, God will breathe life back into the dead, restoring them to an earthly existence. And God will bring all the dead back to life, not just the righteous.

Euh les 2 conceptions que tu as mis sont tres différentes quand meme.

C'est issu du même article écrit par le monsieur.

UP

L'auteur a fait un live à ce sujet y a quelques semaines.

Pour ceux que ça intéresse : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYl24xibc2I (en anglais)