Le 05 mars 2020 à 20:24:53 Ichirai a écrit :
Nouvelles images (j'en met qu'une qui me semble intéressante par flemme le reste c'est SpoilAfficherMasquerDenjiro qui pleure, Kyoshiro avec un foulard sur la tête et Toki et ses enfants )

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Le 05 mars 2020 à 20:15:01 MACisback a écrit :

Le 05 mars 2020 à 20:12:47 Faucheur126 a écrit :

pourquoi tu mets juste "D Roger" et pas Gol D roger ?

Je met le D a ceux qui l'ont pour ne pas oublier

Je met pas le nom de famille (Monkey, Gol,..) ça osef pour l'instant

Les japonais et le lolicon

Le 05 mars 2020 à 20:26:29 Arzandar35 a écrit :
Nouvelle salve de spoiler bien plus complet
SpoilAfficherMasquerLe chapitre commence par un flash-back sur le navire de Roger avec Oden tenant Momo au retour de Skypiea. - Nous avons également une scène où Oden écoute Hiyori jouer de ses instruments - Nous voyons également Inu et Neko se crier dessus et se faire prendre. - Ashura et Denjiro restent pour retenir l'ennemi pendant que le reste continue. - Nous voyons des ombres de King debout à l'extérieur pendant que le château brûle. - Kaido éclate et étouffe Momo. Il y a une page entière de lui étouffant Momo tout en le tenant du bord d'un château. Il semble alors avoir pitié ou penser que cela n'en vaut pas la peine car il s'envole. - Quoi qu'il en soit, Kin'emon fait irruption juste après et ils sautent la partie où ils sont envoyés vers le futur. - Ensuite, nous voyons Kawamatsu sauter par la fenêtre et nager avec Hiyori. - Et puis nous faisons échapper Toki au village pour livrer la prophétie. Elle prend un cheval. Nous obtenons une séquence de Toki se souvenant d'Oden alors qu'elle donne ses derniers mots. Elle ne meurt pas sur panneau. Il se déplace jusqu'à la lune et nous entendons un sfx semble-t-il. - Denjiro est à la fois le garçon de l'heure de la sorcellerie et Kyoshiro. Après que Kawamatsu a perdu Hiyori, elle arrive au seuil de Kyoshiro. Il s'incline devant elle. Ensuite, ils élaborent un plan, je pense que le chapitre se termine avec elle devenant Oiran. Clignotant vers l'avenir.

Chap assez complet, et conclu bien le fb

Le 05 mars 2020 à 20:19:12 BrotherNature a écrit :
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/sanji-cracking-luffys-skull-is-canon-in-the-manga.3081/

C'est juste pour la dent, et même si c'était pas le cas je vois pas où il veut en venir. Un peu malaisant en vrai

Le 05 mars 2020 à 20:31:33 Dozing_Kyoshiro a écrit :

Le 05 mars 2020 à 20:24:53 Ichirai a écrit :
Nouvelles images (j'en met qu'une qui me semble intéressante par flemme le reste c'est SpoilAfficherMasquerDenjiro qui pleure, Kyoshiro avec un foulard sur la tête et Toki et ses enfants )

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Je me casse le cul à mettre les balises spoiler putain

" Until 2014, keeping such DVDs was not illegal and it was only made illegal in 2015 due to western pressure.

Before that, people possessed stuff like that and it wasn't a big deal.
Japanese Police often target high profile people so that their arrest can be a warning to the public who are indulging in illegal activities.
People think that It's now illegal but still not a big deal.
Another thing is that in Japan if the person accepts his guilt and shows redemption, he is forgiven by the law. Nobuhiro accepted his wrongdoing and hence was forgiven."
Now, another thing you should know is that Nobuhiro Watsuki was Eiichiro Oda's mentor when he debuted.
Odacchi and Nobuhiro share a special relationship and you just can't expect him to cut all ties from Watsuki.
Moreover, most of the Japanese fans don't have a problem with their Interview. “

Le 05 mars 2020 à 20:31:33 Dozing_Kyoshiro a écrit :

Le 05 mars 2020 à 20:24:53 Ichirai a écrit :
Nouvelles images (j'en met qu'une qui me semble intéressante par flemme le reste c'est SpoilAfficherMasquerDenjiro qui pleure, Kyoshiro avec un foulard sur la tête et Toki et ses enfants )

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Les numbers c'est la dernière opportunité de redonner un semblant de crédibilité et de charisme aux beasts pirates, oda a plutôt intérêt à pas se foiré

Aussi surprise SpoilAfficherMasquer toki n'est pas morte dans l' incendie vous sentez le beyond imagination arrivé

Le 05 mars 2020 à 20:44:00 Arzandar35 a écrit :

Le 05 mars 2020 à 20:31:33 Dozing_Kyoshiro a écrit :

Le 05 mars 2020 à 20:24:53 Ichirai a écrit :
Nouvelles images (j'en met qu'une qui me semble intéressante par flemme le reste c'est SpoilAfficherMasquerDenjiro qui pleure, Kyoshiro avec un foulard sur la tête et Toki et ses enfants )

SpoilAfficherMasquer

NUMBERS HYPPE

Les numbers c'est la dernière opportunité de redonner un semblant de crédibilité et de charisme aux beasts pirates, oda a plutôt intérêt à pas se foiré

Aussi surprise SpoilAfficherMasquer toki n'est pas morte dans l' incendie vous sentez le beyond imagination arrivé

Ce sera dans le même délire que les gardes d’impel down

Le 05 mars 2020 à 18:37:28 GibersonRE3 a écrit :
ace novel (sous spoil car c'est long):

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-The novel start with a recap of Roger's legacy and the power structure in place ine the One Piece World at the time Ace reached Sabaody.
(Rivaille’s note: the second part start just after Ace defeat Draw).

-We have the reaction of WB to Ace refusing to be a Shishibukai
-Thatch was a the chief cook of the Moby Dick and he was able to do energy food like Sanji.
-It seems that Thatch and WB were close. Thatch was the one bringing WB is medecine
-So they reiterate that WB is the WSM but they add that he could destroy an entire island in a blink of an eye.
-WB’s have more than ten thousands men under his command ( including crewmates ans allies)
-We learn that Sengoku highly appreciated Jinbe. Especially because Jinbe is the only one to answer to every shihsibukai's convocation
-The WG asked Ace to be a Shishibukai because the 7th place was vacant.
(Rivaille’s note: at that time Jinbe, Sir Crocrodile, Hancock, Doflamingo and Moria were already Shishibukai which means that it is either Mihawk or Kuma who were not a Shishibukai yet)

-At this time, WB was not ill yet, it is at least what Thatch said to Jinbe
(Rivaille's note: he might have been lying)

-It is reiterated that the Gorosei are under the Celestial dragons’ orders
-Ace explained that when he lose consciousness during his meal it is because the meal is too good
-WB was considered as a hero in Fishman island. The Fishmen trust him more than they trust the WG
-Apparently Neptune greatly help WB when the latter was younger
-Deuces, Ace’s first mate, said: « In the new world the strongest rule, the dominated survive and the weaks return to Paradise »
-Red Hair Shanks had several duels with Mihawk and every one of them have made the headlines. Furthermore, most of Shanks’ fame are from those duels. It is also said that he does not seek to become the PK
-It is say that it is better to not make Shanks angry because when he is angry no one can stop him.
-It is say that what makes Whitebeard’s angry is when you do not do your duty. There is nothing more important than honor to him and once you are his son he will never let you down.
-It is say that what make Big Mom dangerous is when she is in a bad mood. Big Mom's crew is compared to a mafia reigning over a country rather than a pirate crew protecting a territory.
-It is say that Kaido existence is horrific in itself. And that his crew are more a group of delinquent than a pirate crew
(Rivaille’s note : these depictions of the emperors are introduce as rumors)

-WB and Big Mom are from the previous generation while Kaido and Shanks are from the generation after that
-For some people, because Shanks was on the Oro Jackson, they considered that he is the heir of Roger
(Rivaille’s note : they think that before Ace was reveal to be the son of Roger)

-On his territories WB had restaurants, casinos, trade, weapons trade, show business...all those activities were there to sustain his tremendous armada.
-Basically, WB had the most men, the most territories and the a huge amount of revenus
(Rivaille’s note : this explain Mrs Baggins' words about WB’s treasure)

-Shanks is the emperor that people have the most difficulty to locate
-Shanks is describe to be very gentle with his friends but to be ruthless with the young bloods who think to high of themselves
-When Shanks met Ace, Red hair used CoC on him but he did not work
-When Shanks used CoC, the fire in front of him gain in intensity
-Shanks find that Ace’s way to salute people was weird. He did not know how to react so he looked at Beckman, Roo and Yassop to see how they feel. If he did not attack Ace it is because they did not seems to find Ace’s hostile
(Rivaille’s note: interesting to see that Shanks has this much respect and confidence on his lieutenants’ opinion)

-In the Pirates' World showing the palm of your hand when you salute someone, it is a sign of respect and humility
-When Shanks wants to be menacing he grabs his sword if CoC does not work
-« Beckmann : I bet that Makino is even more gorgeous than before...waht do you think Captain? », « Shanks: Maybe... »
(Rivaille’s note : Yeah, he clearly tapped dat ass )

-Shanks does not consider the straw hat to be more precious than life. Meaning that, for him, the love Luffy has for the straw hat might be too much
-For Shanks men, WB is worst than the devil and they will prefer to die 100 times rather than face him
-For The people in the One Piece world, WB was the equivalent of a living natural disaster like a earthquake or a tsunami
-One of the Shishibukai tried to kill WB few years prior to the novel
( Rivaille’s note : I guess it was Sir Crocodile)

-It is reiterate that the stalemate between the emperors is because if one emperor beat another emperor that will just reinforce the influence of the last two
-At this moment of his life, Ace lives only because of the sakazuki cup he shared with Luffy and Sabo. Ace said : « If it was not for Sabo and if I did not have a potty little brother like you...I will never thought of living. »
-Ace hated Roger because he attributed all the suffering he met in his life to Roger. For Him, Roger is the reason why he suffered so much. Therefore he wants to surpass him to erase his legacy. He wanted for people to not call him « the son of Roger » but to call Roger « the father of Ace »
-He never intended to become the PK or to find the One Piece, because for him it would have mean that he just like Roger. No, he wanted to do something different and bigger than being PK
-This what Ace said to Shanks : « The entire world is my enemy. The Shishibukai, the emperors, the celestial dragons...I will beat them all. Once my flames have burn all the summits, I will put my flag on them ».
-Shanks had a hard time to understand Ace’s personality.
-Blackbeard scared Shanks just before he goes to East blue
(Rivaille’s note: BB scaring Shanks is introduce has a big feat)

-At this point of time, those scars do not throb anymore
(Rivaille’s note: as if they were linked to BB’s ambition)

-Even tho Ace projecting to attack WB was beneficial to Shanks, the latter could not help Ace directly. Because it would have start a conflict with WB
-Shanks was on a winter island but before and after Ace presence there was blizzard and falling snow. When Ace was there no blizzard nor falling snow
-Shanks said that he felt Ace’s haki even before Ace reached the island and that Ace’s haki is like flammes
-To this Beckman guess that it was because of this that the snow melt
(Rivaille’s note: my guess is that CoC can enhance any ability and that Ace’s CoC make the Mera mera no mi which the impact on the environment)

-For Beckman, Ace is more a revolutionary than a Pirate.
-For Beckman, Ace lack of vision would lead him to be only a mere fleet captain
-For Beckmann, Ace is an arrogant young blood who believe that he is invincible because he ate a logia
-It is said that the ones deciding who can become a Shishibukai are Sengoku and the Gorosei
-Beckman said that just eating a logia does not justify to be ask to become a Shishibukai nor to have a bounty above 100 millions so there must be something else. Then he said to Shanks that maybe they asked Ace to become a Shishibukai to control him.
-It is implied that after those remarks by Beckmann, after remembering some of Ace's words about Roger during their meeting and Ace’s birthplace, that Shanks understood that Ace is Roger’s son
-It is said that Kaido was above WB in term of strength (Rivaille's note: it is not said if it is Primebeard or Oldbeard but i thin that they are talking of the WB of the novel)

-It is said that Kaido is the WSC because of his apparent immortality and that he is a ferocious fighter
-It is said that Big Mom’s family was what made her the most dangerous captain and that she is a formidable business woman
-It is said that WB life accomplishment made him the strongest pirate, that he is the epitome of what it meant to be a pirate
(Rivaille’s note: basically, Kaido is stronger than WB as an individual fighter but WB is stronger than Kaido in term of piracy)

-Doma and A.O were working for another emperor and attack WB territories
-The place where Ace fought Jinbe was very important for the WB’s Pirates because it was a place where they had a lot of food supplies.
-It is implied that every emperor have food supplies islands and they were easy to conquer
-The WG is depicted as the enemy of the liberty
-It is reiterated that WB is the only man to ever have rivaled Roger
-Ace did not use haki against Jinbe but Jinbe used haki against Ace
-It is said that Jinbe vs Ace end on a draw
-WB used CoC on the Spade pirates and he used aerial slash to defeat the ones that did not faint from the CoC’s blast
-What allow Ace to face WB, even tho he was totally beat up and semi-conscious after his fight against Jinbe, was his desire to protect his crew. (Rivaille’s note: he basically create a wall of fire and charge WB on willpower alone)

-WB attacked Ace with CoA on his bisento but Ace has the mental strength to go up after that. He impressed WB by his willpower and this why he asked him to join his crew.
-It said that WB hit Ace so hard after he refused to join him that Ace forgot that the fight happened.
-For the majority of the people of the One Piece world, every pirate is a calamity. For them Roger is not a benevolent figure but the reason why there are so much pirates and why some of them lose beloved ones.
-Roger has a gift to read people’s heart
-Ace’s crewmates have tried to free him from the Moby Dick but they failed
-It is said that WB treat Ace like a mere mosquito when Ace first attacked him
(Rivaille’s note: the scene is describe like the scene with Big Mom and the Brook’s rescue team)

-Ace tried to kill WB on daily basis during several weeks. He tried at different times of the day without success
-One time, one casual hit of WB one shot Ace
-It is say that the emperors and the Shishibukai are the elite of the pirates' world
-It is say that Old Beard is weaker than Primebeard but not how much weaker
( Rivaille’s note: this is said by Deuces who tried to explained to Ace how weak he is.)

-It is say that one hundred thousand or maybe millions of people are depending on WB’s protection to be safe
-Thatch told Ace that if WB let them live (Ace and his crew) it is because they were too weak to be a threat to his territories
-When Kotatsu, Ace’s linx, met Teach he was really afraid of him.
-At first, Ace did not like Teach
-When Ace understood WB’s importance in the world, he stopped trying to kill him but was willing to have honorable fights against him. To force WB to accept this deal he decided to work for him
(Rivaille’s note: it reminds me of Vinland Saga)

-WB accepted Ace proposal, put him under Thatch’s responsibility and under Teach's tutelage
-If Ace lose 100 fights to WB he had to join his crew
-Thatch told Ace that at first, three men were ruling the new world : Roger, WB and Shiki. But only WB remained.
-He also said that Big Mom still has her territories but she is an exception
-Thatch says that only 30% of pirates are going into the new world
-It is reiterate that there is no strength hierarchy between the WB’s commanders
-Ace was considering the Marines as the biggest pirate crew
(Rivaille’s note: I think it is akin to people saying that the biggest gang in LA is the LAPD)

-Thatch explained that the marines only protect the part of the new world that they deem important. He elaborated by saying that marines first priority is to protect the WG not the civilians
-Thatch explained to Ace that for him to become an emperor he has to at least become as strong as Shanks
(Rivaille’s note: this seems to implied that Shanks is the weaker of the emperors)

-It is say that there is no bad rumors about Shanks because he is considered to be a good guy
-The WBP do not partake in slavery or drug trades
-When the WBP destroy a crew that attack their territories and that WB did not deem worthy, they take their treasure, sell their boat, and use middle-man to collect their bounties
-Teach is depicted to have low pain tolerance. He is also depicted to be the pirate archetype
-Teach admit that he is the guy who scared Shanks...but then say that he was joking
-Mr1 was known by Thatch
-Thatch said that he would love to have the Mera Mera no mi or the clear clear fruit
-Ace manage to hit WB once during their 99 brawl and WB said that is starting to become strong
-It is implied that if WB let Ace fought him it was to train Ace
-Deuces, Ace's first mate, thought that the WG asked Ace to become a Shishibukai because they might have known that he was the son of Roger
-From WB's perpective beating a Shishibukai can increase your reputation as much as beating an emperor
-From WB’s perspective it seems that Ace was not really eager to become a pirate and did that to respect the promise he did to Luffy and Sabo.
-It is say that the emperor’s title is not for the most violent pirate but for the one who succeed in creating an empire
-It is say that marines are actively trying to take territories from emperors but they are doing that step by step
-Ace used CoC against a ferocious beast like Luffy against Duval’s bull
-Teach is a beastly and ruthless fighter
-The only time WB used the Gura gura no mi against Ace was during their last fight.
-The novel ends by Ace and WB sharing a Sakazuki cup. It implied that Ace found on WB ship what he search for and that was the end of his journey
(Rivaille’s note: what I understand from that is that Ace became a pirate not to become a pirate per se or to surpass his father but to find a place where he will be happy. If Luffy’s journey is to become PK, Ace journey was to find a place where he would be accepted, which he found on the Moby Dick)

Triste de découvrir l'escroquerie Shanks de manière si brutale et en plus dans un simple novel

Le pire c'est que je suis même pas particulierement content tellement c'était évident. Juste triste pour Rac qui, à cause d'un différentiel de talent de lecture, était dans l'erreur durant tant d'années et même pas seulement sur ce sujet mais sur une multitude d'autres.

Et par contre les Sanjifags RAF ils sont responsables de leurs propres damage control

J'ai vraiment hâte de voir les compositions des combats sur Onigashima, ça fait depuis longtemps qu'il y a pas eu une telle incertitude (WCI il y a pas eu de combats pour tout le monde,il y a juste des débiles qui pensait qu'il y aurait Sanji/Katakuri et Luffy/Big Mom, Zou rien)
La priorité (pour moi) c'est vraiment les mugi par contre, sans que ce soit forcément des 1v1, je me contenterais d'un Robin/Nami/Shinobu contre les Oniwaban par exemple (si leur chef est balaise et que le combat dure et est stratégique).

Le 05 mars 2020 à 20:48:41 QuantumVacuuo a écrit :

Le 05 mars 2020 à 18:37:28 GibersonRE3 a écrit :
ace novel (sous spoil car c'est long):

SpoilAfficherMasquer

-The novel start with a recap of Roger's legacy and the power structure in place ine the One Piece World at the time Ace reached Sabaody.
(Rivaille’s note: the second part start just after Ace defeat Draw).

-We have the reaction of WB to Ace refusing to be a Shishibukai
-Thatch was a the chief cook of the Moby Dick and he was able to do energy food like Sanji.
-It seems that Thatch and WB were close. Thatch was the one bringing WB is medecine
-So they reiterate that WB is the WSM but they add that he could destroy an entire island in a blink of an eye.
-WB’s have more than ten thousands men under his command ( including crewmates ans allies)
-We learn that Sengoku highly appreciated Jinbe. Especially because Jinbe is the only one to answer to every shihsibukai's convocation
-The WG asked Ace to be a Shishibukai because the 7th place was vacant.
(Rivaille’s note: at that time Jinbe, Sir Crocrodile, Hancock, Doflamingo and Moria were already Shishibukai which means that it is either Mihawk or Kuma who were not a Shishibukai yet)

-At this time, WB was not ill yet, it is at least what Thatch said to Jinbe
(Rivaille's note: he might have been lying)

-It is reiterated that the Gorosei are under the Celestial dragons’ orders
-Ace explained that when he lose consciousness during his meal it is because the meal is too good
-WB was considered as a hero in Fishman island. The Fishmen trust him more than they trust the WG
-Apparently Neptune greatly help WB when the latter was younger
-Deuces, Ace’s first mate, said: « In the new world the strongest rule, the dominated survive and the weaks return to Paradise »
-Red Hair Shanks had several duels with Mihawk and every one of them have made the headlines. Furthermore, most of Shanks’ fame are from those duels. It is also said that he does not seek to become the PK
-It is say that it is better to not make Shanks angry because when he is angry no one can stop him.
-It is say that what makes Whitebeard’s angry is when you do not do your duty. There is nothing more important than honor to him and once you are his son he will never let you down.
-It is say that what make Big Mom dangerous is when she is in a bad mood. Big Mom's crew is compared to a mafia reigning over a country rather than a pirate crew protecting a territory.
-It is say that Kaido existence is horrific in itself. And that his crew are more a group of delinquent than a pirate crew
(Rivaille’s note : these depictions of the emperors are introduce as rumors)

-WB and Big Mom are from the previous generation while Kaido and Shanks are from the generation after that
-For some people, because Shanks was on the Oro Jackson, they considered that he is the heir of Roger
(Rivaille’s note : they think that before Ace was reveal to be the son of Roger)

-On his territories WB had restaurants, casinos, trade, weapons trade, show business...all those activities were there to sustain his tremendous armada.
-Basically, WB had the most men, the most territories and the a huge amount of revenus
(Rivaille’s note : this explain Mrs Baggins' words about WB’s treasure)

-Shanks is the emperor that people have the most difficulty to locate
-Shanks is describe to be very gentle with his friends but to be ruthless with the young bloods who think to high of themselves
-When Shanks met Ace, Red hair used CoC on him but he did not work
-When Shanks used CoC, the fire in front of him gain in intensity
-Shanks find that Ace’s way to salute people was weird. He did not know how to react so he looked at Beckman, Roo and Yassop to see how they feel. If he did not attack Ace it is because they did not seems to find Ace’s hostile
(Rivaille’s note: interesting to see that Shanks has this much respect and confidence on his lieutenants’ opinion)

-In the Pirates' World showing the palm of your hand when you salute someone, it is a sign of respect and humility
-When Shanks wants to be menacing he grabs his sword if CoC does not work
-« Beckmann : I bet that Makino is even more gorgeous than before...waht do you think Captain? », « Shanks: Maybe... »
(Rivaille’s note : Yeah, he clearly tapped dat ass )

-Shanks does not consider the straw hat to be more precious than life. Meaning that, for him, the love Luffy has for the straw hat might be too much
-For Shanks men, WB is worst than the devil and they will prefer to die 100 times rather than face him
-For The people in the One Piece world, WB was the equivalent of a living natural disaster like a earthquake or a tsunami
-One of the Shishibukai tried to kill WB few years prior to the novel
( Rivaille’s note : I guess it was Sir Crocodile)

-It is reiterate that the stalemate between the emperors is because if one emperor beat another emperor that will just reinforce the influence of the last two
-At this moment of his life, Ace lives only because of the sakazuki cup he shared with Luffy and Sabo. Ace said : « If it was not for Sabo and if I did not have a potty little brother like you...I will never thought of living. »
-Ace hated Roger because he attributed all the suffering he met in his life to Roger. For Him, Roger is the reason why he suffered so much. Therefore he wants to surpass him to erase his legacy. He wanted for people to not call him « the son of Roger » but to call Roger « the father of Ace »
-He never intended to become the PK or to find the One Piece, because for him it would have mean that he just like Roger. No, he wanted to do something different and bigger than being PK
-This what Ace said to Shanks : « The entire world is my enemy. The Shishibukai, the emperors, the celestial dragons...I will beat them all. Once my flames have burn all the summits, I will put my flag on them ».
-Shanks had a hard time to understand Ace’s personality.
-Blackbeard scared Shanks just before he goes to East blue
(Rivaille’s note: BB scaring Shanks is introduce has a big feat)

-At this point of time, those scars do not throb anymore
(Rivaille’s note: as if they were linked to BB’s ambition)

-Even tho Ace projecting to attack WB was beneficial to Shanks, the latter could not help Ace directly. Because it would have start a conflict with WB
-Shanks was on a winter island but before and after Ace presence there was blizzard and falling snow. When Ace was there no blizzard nor falling snow
-Shanks said that he felt Ace’s haki even before Ace reached the island and that Ace’s haki is like flammes
-To this Beckman guess that it was because of this that the snow melt
(Rivaille’s note: my guess is that CoC can enhance any ability and that Ace’s CoC make the Mera mera no mi which the impact on the environment)

-For Beckman, Ace is more a revolutionary than a Pirate.
-For Beckman, Ace lack of vision would lead him to be only a mere fleet captain
-For Beckmann, Ace is an arrogant young blood who believe that he is invincible because he ate a logia
-It is said that the ones deciding who can become a Shishibukai are Sengoku and the Gorosei
-Beckman said that just eating a logia does not justify to be ask to become a Shishibukai nor to have a bounty above 100 millions so there must be something else. Then he said to Shanks that maybe they asked Ace to become a Shishibukai to control him.
-It is implied that after those remarks by Beckmann, after remembering some of Ace's words about Roger during their meeting and Ace’s birthplace, that Shanks understood that Ace is Roger’s son
-It is said that Kaido was above WB in term of strength (Rivaille's note: it is not said if it is Primebeard or Oldbeard but i thin that they are talking of the WB of the novel)

-It is said that Kaido is the WSC because of his apparent immortality and that he is a ferocious fighter
-It is said that Big Mom’s family was what made her the most dangerous captain and that she is a formidable business woman
-It is said that WB life accomplishment made him the strongest pirate, that he is the epitome of what it meant to be a pirate
(Rivaille’s note: basically, Kaido is stronger than WB as an individual fighter but WB is stronger than Kaido in term of piracy)

-Doma and A.O were working for another emperor and attack WB territories
-The place where Ace fought Jinbe was very important for the WB’s Pirates because it was a place where they had a lot of food supplies.
-It is implied that every emperor have food supplies islands and they were easy to conquer
-The WG is depicted as the enemy of the liberty
-It is reiterated that WB is the only man to ever have rivaled Roger
-Ace did not use haki against Jinbe but Jinbe used haki against Ace
-It is said that Jinbe vs Ace end on a draw
-WB used CoC on the Spade pirates and he used aerial slash to defeat the ones that did not faint from the CoC’s blast
-What allow Ace to face WB, even tho he was totally beat up and semi-conscious after his fight against Jinbe, was his desire to protect his crew. (Rivaille’s note: he basically create a wall of fire and charge WB on willpower alone)

-WB attacked Ace with CoA on his bisento but Ace has the mental strength to go up after that. He impressed WB by his willpower and this why he asked him to join his crew.
-It said that WB hit Ace so hard after he refused to join him that Ace forgot that the fight happened.
-For the majority of the people of the One Piece world, every pirate is a calamity. For them Roger is not a benevolent figure but the reason why there are so much pirates and why some of them lose beloved ones.
-Roger has a gift to read people’s heart
-Ace’s crewmates have tried to free him from the Moby Dick but they failed
-It is said that WB treat Ace like a mere mosquito when Ace first attacked him
(Rivaille’s note: the scene is describe like the scene with Big Mom and the Brook’s rescue team)

-Ace tried to kill WB on daily basis during several weeks. He tried at different times of the day without success
-One time, one casual hit of WB one shot Ace
-It is say that the emperors and the Shishibukai are the elite of the pirates' world
-It is say that Old Beard is weaker than Primebeard but not how much weaker
( Rivaille’s note: this is said by Deuces who tried to explained to Ace how weak he is.)

-It is say that one hundred thousand or maybe millions of people are depending on WB’s protection to be safe
-Thatch told Ace that if WB let them live (Ace and his crew) it is because they were too weak to be a threat to his territories
-When Kotatsu, Ace’s linx, met Teach he was really afraid of him.
-At first, Ace did not like Teach
-When Ace understood WB’s importance in the world, he stopped trying to kill him but was willing to have honorable fights against him. To force WB to accept this deal he decided to work for him
(Rivaille’s note: it reminds me of Vinland Saga)

-WB accepted Ace proposal, put him under Thatch’s responsibility and under Teach's tutelage
-If Ace lose 100 fights to WB he had to join his crew
-Thatch told Ace that at first, three men were ruling the new world : Roger, WB and Shiki. But only WB remained.
-He also said that Big Mom still has her territories but she is an exception
-Thatch says that only 30% of pirates are going into the new world
-It is reiterate that there is no strength hierarchy between the WB’s commanders
-Ace was considering the Marines as the biggest pirate crew
(Rivaille’s note: I think it is akin to people saying that the biggest gang in LA is the LAPD)

-Thatch explained that the marines only protect the part of the new world that they deem important. He elaborated by saying that marines first priority is to protect the WG not the civilians
-Thatch explained to Ace that for him to become an emperor he has to at least become as strong as Shanks
(Rivaille’s note: this seems to implied that Shanks is the weaker of the emperors)

-It is say that there is no bad rumors about Shanks because he is considered to be a good guy
-The WBP do not partake in slavery or drug trades
-When the WBP destroy a crew that attack their territories and that WB did not deem worthy, they take their treasure, sell their boat, and use middle-man to collect their bounties
-Teach is depicted to have low pain tolerance. He is also depicted to be the pirate archetype
-Teach admit that he is the guy who scared Shanks...but then say that he was joking
-Mr1 was known by Thatch
-Thatch said that he would love to have the Mera Mera no mi or the clear clear fruit
-Ace manage to hit WB once during their 99 brawl and WB said that is starting to become strong
-It is implied that if WB let Ace fought him it was to train Ace
-Deuces, Ace's first mate, thought that the WG asked Ace to become a Shishibukai because they might have known that he was the son of Roger
-From WB's perpective beating a Shishibukai can increase your reputation as much as beating an emperor
-From WB’s perspective it seems that Ace was not really eager to become a pirate and did that to respect the promise he did to Luffy and Sabo.
-It is say that the emperor’s title is not for the most violent pirate but for the one who succeed in creating an empire
-It is say that marines are actively trying to take territories from emperors but they are doing that step by step
-Ace used CoC against a ferocious beast like Luffy against Duval’s bull
-Teach is a beastly and ruthless fighter
-The only time WB used the Gura gura no mi against Ace was during their last fight.
-The novel ends by Ace and WB sharing a Sakazuki cup. It implied that Ace found on WB ship what he search for and that was the end of his journey
(Rivaille’s note: what I understand from that is that Ace became a pirate not to become a pirate per se or to surpass his father but to find a place where he will be happy. If Luffy’s journey is to become PK, Ace journey was to find a place where he would be accepted, which he found on the Moby Dick)

Triste de découvrir l'escroquerie Shanks de manière si brutale et en plus dans un simple novel

Le pire c'est que je suis même pas particulierement content tellement c'était évident. Juste triste pour Rac qui, à cause d'un différentiel de talent de lecture, était dans l'erreur durant tant d'années et même pas seulement sur ce sujet mais sur une multitude d'autres.

Et par contre les Sanjifags RAF ils sont responsables de leurs propres damage control

flemme de tout lire, ça dit quoi sur Shanks ?

vivement oni qu'on puisse aussi voir les 4 autres tenbi roppo. j'espère que l'un d'eux sera un smilodon ou un triceratops...

le top 3 des beasts composé d'un mammouth/brachiosaure/pteranodon a été une telle déception...

Mais sinon chaud le nombre ahurissant d'infos dans ce post (et du coup dans ce novel). Je reviendrai sur tout ça oklm après avoir rattrapé le topic

Mac : -Qu'il est sûrement le plus faible des 4 Yonkos étant donné que Teach avait dit à Ace qu'il pouvait le devenir si il rivalisait au moins avec Shanks.
-Qu'il s'est combattu plusieurs fois avec Mihawk.
-Une fois énervé , il a la réputation de ne plus se faire arrêter.
-C'est le yonko le plus soft.
En bref , c'est un peu ça , j'ai du en oublier.

concernant sa réputation et sa puissance:

Red Hair Shanks had several duels with Mihawk and every one of them have made the headlines. Furthermore, most of Shanks’ fame are from those duels. It is also said that he does not seek to become the PK

et

Thatch explained to Ace that for him to become an emperor he has to at least become as strong as Shanks

(Rivaille’s note: this seems to implied that Shanks is the weaker of the emperors)

coup dur pour les shankstardsfag

Le 05 mars 2020 à 20:49:35 Ichirai a écrit :
J'ai vraiment hâte de voir les compositions des combats sur Onigashima, ça fait depuis longtemps qu'il y a pas eu une telle incertitude (WCI il y a pas eu de combats pour tout le monde,il y a juste des débiles qui pensait qu'il y aurait Sanji/Katakuri et Luffy/Big Mom, Zou rien)
La priorité (pour moi) c'est vraiment les mugi par contre, sans que ce soit forcément des 1v1, je me contenterais d'un Robin/Nami/Shinobu contre les Oniwaban par exemple (si leur chef est balaise et que le combat dure et est stratégique).

zoro et kinemon contre king

kidd et killer contre queen

neko et inu sulong contre jack

Le 05 mars 2020 à 21:02:00 BernardSandaire a écrit :

Le 05 mars 2020 à 20:49:35 Ichirai a écrit :
J'ai vraiment hâte de voir les compositions des combats sur Onigashima, ça fait depuis longtemps qu'il y a pas eu une telle incertitude (WCI il y a pas eu de combats pour tout le monde,il y a juste des débiles qui pensait qu'il y aurait Sanji/Katakuri et Luffy/Big Mom, Zou rien)
La priorité (pour moi) c'est vraiment les mugi par contre, sans que ce soit forcément des 1v1, je me contenterais d'un Robin/Nami/Shinobu contre les Oniwaban par exemple (si leur chef est balaise et que le combat dure et est stratégique).

zoro et kinemon contre king

kidd et killer contre queen

neko et inu sulong contre jack

[21:02:00] <BernardSandaire>

Le 05 mars 2020 à 20:49:35 Ichirai a écrit :
J'ai vraiment hâte de voir les compositions des combats sur Onigashima, ça fait depuis longtemps qu'il y a pas eu une telle incertitude (WCI il y a pas eu de combats pour tout le monde,il y a juste des débiles qui pensait qu'il y aurait Sanji/Katakuri et Luffy/Big Mom, Zou rien)
La priorité (pour moi) c'est vraiment les mugi par contre, sans que ce soit forcément des 1v1, je me contenterais d'un Robin/Nami/Shinobu contre les Oniwaban par exemple (si leur chef est balaise et que le combat dure et est stratégique).

zoro et kinemon contre king

kidd et killer contre queen

neko et inu sulong contre jack

Se serai logique c'est sa le pire