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RATCHETBLASTER
RATCHETBLASTER
Niveau 10
19 septembre 2006 à 23:55:58

Bon,mettons les choses au clair tout de suite.Ce que vous allez lire est la déclaration faite par un soi-disant membre de la branche Sony,et qui est depuis quelques mois surnommé The Prophet par l´ensemble des forumeurs américains et anglais sur Ign,Gamespot et le site officiel Playstation.Pourquoi ce nom ? Tout simple parce que le gars en question a déjà fais plusieurs annonces quelques mois auparavant,sur l´e3 par exemple,ou sur le report de la Ps3 en Europe,avant même que ces deux énvènements ne soient annoncés de manière officielle ; ces déclarations se sont révelées vraies par la suite.Voilà pourquoi depuis plusieurs mois,on le surnomme le Prophete.

Et voici ses dernières déclarations sur plusieurs projets Ps3,dont certains seront présentés au Tgs,ainsi que d´autres informations sur le Blu-ray,la Psp,etc...
Bien sûr,celà risque d´en faire rire certains,certaines de ses affirmations étant pour le moins surprenantes...
Je vous laisse vous faire une idée par vous-même.Personnellement,je ne préfère pas m´avancer et j´attendrai donc de voir comment va se dérouler ce Tgs et quelles annonces y seront faites.
Certains prendront tout au premier degré,d´autres crieront au moutonisme...
Certaines de ses affirmations sont malgré tout crédibles,que ce soit au sujet de Heavenly Sword ou Lair.

The following statements do not come from me, they come from the Sony *insider* who has been coined "The Prophet" by Playstation fans for his *insight* on recent and upcoming Sony news/games/etc.

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Wow, so much to cover - where do I even start? I´ll just have to be careful here as there´s certain things that aren´t supposed to be revealed until the TGS.

Note: This post is by no means unbiased. I make no warranty that what I have to say will not piss you off – especially if you’re a one-company fanboy whore. I’ll answer questions and I´ll share what I know… but I’m not going to argue with the retards lurking in the Games forum shadows… especially when I am way more informed than you are*. Believe that or not (it´s a fact), I don’t give a flying **** what some pimple faced punk in the digital jungle thinks. This is a favor for those who appreciate it. Hence, if you do not appreciate inside information, then do us all a favor and **** off.

Now that that’s out of the way…

Lets start with the bad news - the launch lineup is shrinking. Originally, the list was 30 titles (1st and 3rd party). Currently, the list is about 15 titles (can’t get more specific because at this stage it literally changes by the hour). There is an up-side, however. The extra development time is making a world of difference. Some of you saw Heavenly Sword at E3 and it looked pretty good... that is, it looked like your typical 360 game. The team has been hard at work piling on layers and layers of detail and as of right now, it looks like ****ing Advent Children (you thought Metal Gear looked good? You gotta see this). It´s also being given a God of War type violence upgrade, since they found out the graphical realism and brutality of the combat (bloodless though it was) was getting it a Mature anyway. Seriously, it will blow your mother****ing mind (although it’s sad that having really awesome graphics influences the ESRB ratings these days). The current release target is March.

Killzone 2 - This one has been MIA since last years E3. It is still in development and it is, unequivocally, the PS3s big "secret weapon." Announcements are being held back until closer to the PS3 launch as it´s going to generate a monumental amount of buzz. It´s one of those things that I can´t get into too much detail about. However, it looks exactly like the video. Yeah. That video.

LAIR - This won´t be out until next summer at the earliest, but this one is also abso****inglutely incredible. Missions basically involve unscripted AI-driven massive scale battles (we´re talking Helms Deep here) and you control a single dragon and rider. The game is essentially playing an RTS with itself and it´s up to you to influence the tide of the battles. This is also very dark and mature.

More bad news, these titles are all now Q1 ´07 releases or later. Resistance: Fall of Man is being primed as the killer ap launch title. Some of you are sure to go nuts for it as it´s like a crossbreed between Half Life 2 & Call of Duty. Personally, I ****ing hate both those games so I was not terribly impressed with the single player. Now multiplayer is a whole different beast, because the weapons are strange as ****. For example, there´s this energy-burst weapon that just passes through solid matter. Almost everything in the environments is destructible (vehicles, concrete barriers, etc) as well and has physical properties. Hence, certain materials will offer better protection than others. Multiplayer is the big focus of R:FoM anyway, with half a dozen game types and support for up to 40 players.

Someone asked about sound in the other thread - and while specific technical details were not divulged, the sound in Resistance was discussed at length. Resistance has fully simulated sound waves. The system actually checks distances, atmospheric density, wind, what materials the sound is bouncing off and passing through, etc, and modifies the base sound accordingly. Hence, every sound travels through space in real time and distorts just as it does in the real world. There is also support for 5.1, 6.1, and 7.1 sound setups. so however they are doing it, it borders on overkill.

This brings me to BluRay, a controversial topic on this forum as of late. Remember when I was talking about the 360s disc capacity and how it ****ed up Oblivion? Some of you will remember, because I got flamed pretty hard for that (OMG it still looks great, the PC version is the same, waa waa, don’t criticize my console). The Xbox totally ****ed up Oblivion, you can look at the textures and tell where Bethesda cut corners to make it fit on the disc.

As a quick side note, Bethesda is working on a special edition of Oblivion just for PS3. We were shown some screenshots (sadly, not the actual game) and it looks like an entirely different game. Every texture is being replaced with new extremely-high resolution ones. It’s basically what Bethesda wanted to do the first time until they ran into the DVDs capacity limit. BluRay fixes that little bottleneck.

Those DVDs you love so much, they’re the reason PS3 games are going to ****ing destroy anything available on the 360. 85% of the games currently in development for PS3 will not fit on a single DVD9. To give you an idea of the implications, Resistance: Fall of Man is currently 20GB, and could be around 35GB once cinematics and things are added. Publishers are not being forced to use BDs, but it’s expected that 95% of all PS3 games will use BD discs. The big exception is EA, who uniformly develops for the lowest common denominator. Sony is dedicated to helping companies develop for the superior PS3 then downgrade for the weaker systems. The fruits of this labor will probably not be seen for another year at least.

There was a demo, side by side, of an upcoming sports game (can´t tell you which one). One was playing on 360 (DVD9) connected to an HDTV running at 720P. The same game was running on a PS3 (BD50) on an identical HDTV at 720P. The differences were unbelievable, simply because the BD has the space to hold all those extremely high resolution textures. The 360 could probably handle them, but they just plain won´t fit on the disc. This is just one example of how storage capacity is hurting the 360. Of the parade of developers that spoke to us, the BDs capacity was the number one item of praise. No more having to cut corners or find creative ways to make your game fit on the disc. DVDs are just plain obsolete when you´re talking about High-Definition hyper-detailed 3D environments.

On a similar note, those of you rooting for HD-DVD as the High-Def standard might want to start selling your stuff while it’s worth something. The format war was basically decided before it even reached store shelves. 80% of the major manufacturing plants have already adopted Blu-Ray. There’s also the small matter of Sony owning, directly or indirectly, nearly half of the movie industry. I could go into more detail, but I’m getting a little off-topic. The point is, Blu-Ray is here to stay and it’s not going anywhere. HD-DVD, having considerably less support at retail and among manufacturers and movie studios, is ****ed. Also, when it comes to the end-user, the Blu-Ray capabilities of the PS3 are going to be very very heavily advertised. Not only will the PS3 ensure that Blu-Ray is the most widely owned HD player in the world, but Sony is going to make sure that people know it and use it.

Go ahead and throw your tantrums if you want, it won’t change a thing. It’s just plain out of your hands. If you were rooting for the inferior technology – well, oops.

Concerning BD movie costs, they’ve been available for several months now and the average price is $20-$30. Amazon.com is your friend.

Ok, onto the multiplayer. Sony is going all out here. Actually, the entire philosophy behind the PS3s development is “no holding back.” You may whine about the price, you may whine about the features (and those of you that do that regularly really look like huge tards, btw. You know who you are) but Sony really wanted to deliver a system with every cool feature they could think of. Furthermore, they want to deliver a system that will survive another decade. MS may release a new Xbox every couple years, but Playstation owners know that their system isn’t going to be obsolete any time soon. Anyhoo, the online service is absolutely, positively, 100% free… no tiers, no subscription. It’s like having Xbox Live Gold, but you don’t have to pay for it. Some of the features include: multiple online IDs (not just one gamertag), friends lists, rankings and skill-based auto-matchmaking, full online profiles, EyeToy and EyeToy HD integration (photo profiles, possibly video chat).

There is a full featured web browser and the PS3 will have native Keyboard and Mouse support, although Sony will not be making any 1st party Mice or Keyboards for the system. As for using those peripherals in games, it’s entirely up to the developers but Sony is not disallowing it. Still, they would prefer developers make use of the motion sensitive controller instead.

As a side note, the controller motion capabilities are extremely sensitive and accurate. Playing LAIR and WarHawk with it just seemed way more accurate and natural than analogue sticks alone – plus it frees up the analogues for other functionality. You’ll see what I mean when you get a taste of LAIR. It’s ****ing incredible.

In terms of 3rd party support, more than 10,000 SDKs have been shipped and more than 350 confirmed titles in active development. Production of the console itself is proceeding right on target. Reports of cell yields and HDMI 1.3 available have absolutely no impact on the production process. The cell has naturally lower yields due to the fact that it’s a new and more powerful technology. The yields were of the Cell were known far in advance of active production. As some of you know, wafers are rated. Only the best make it into the PS3, the others are sorted for other less demanding uses.

The PS3 is shipping with all 8 cores enabled (1PPE + 7 SPEs). Reports of SPEs “dying” are just plain rubbish.

3rd party developers (EA, UbiSoft) have already announced their pricing schemes for next-gen games. PS3 games will generally cost the same as Xbox 360 titles. The $10 hike in price across the board is meant to cover additional production costs resulting from the need to produce higher quality HD-quality assets. Better graphics means higher production costs.

North America will be getting approximately 700,000 of the first 2 million units. For comparison, the 360 shipped 400,000 units in NA followed by a 5-month complete production shutdown. There will be a second major shipment before Christmas, with an equal number of units (which comes to about 1.4m in NA before Christmas). As of right now, the balance between 20GB and 60GB versions has not been decided. Since both SKUs will be produced at the same plants using the same materials, production can be shifted as needed. It’s most likely that the 60GB version will be the most “common”, however.

The 20GB version is indeed capable of 1080p via component. The only holdup is that there is currently no TVs on the market that support 1080p via component. It’s purely an issue of support from TV manufacturers.

For the uninformed, the difference between the two models (other than HDD size) is that the 60GB has the following additional features: 802.11g Wireless Networking, Flash card reader (CF, SD, MSP), HDMI (v1.3).

Ok, so onto some PSP news…
The GPS is currently on hold. Bummer, I know. PSP has outsold DS and DS Lite by 1.2m units (Edit: Checking on this. May actually be NA only). The PSOne emulator will be attached to an October firmware update. The online store for PSP and PS3 should launch soon thereafter (around November 11). A new PSP entertainment pack is coming next month. It costs $250 and includes a 1GB MSPD, ATV Offroad Fury: Blazin Trails (game), and Lords of Dogtown (movie). No headphones.

PSP integration with PS3 is still planned. You’ll be able to use your PSP as a remote control for your system. Currently, the plan is that you’ll even be able to see your PS3 screen on your PSP so long as both are connected to the same network (almost like a location-free player). This feature may not be ready for launch, but if it misses, it will be added in an update soon after.

More than 200 new PSP titles will ship between now and Christmas!

You know about the disaster that was UMD movies? Well there’s a reason for that. Usually Sony works with companies who license their products and lay down certain ground rules (pricing, features, etc). With UMD, they had a hands-off approach and movie studios just started releasing every piece of **bleep** movie in their vault, without special features, at highly inflated prices. Sony is not happy about this at all and is going to try to jump start the UMD movie scene again (could take up to a year) by requiring that releases meet certain guidelines. Guidelines may include an MSRP limit of $15 and that UMDs include all the special features of their DVD equivalents. It’s possible that it may be too late to save, but Sony has a lot of muscle and the PSPs multimedia features are its biggest selling points… especially considering the target consumer is a male between the ages of 21 and 40.

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graninn112
graninn112
Niveau 10
19 septembre 2006 à 23:57:52

une tradcution s´impose stp ,si c´ets possiblez^^

Potee
Potee
Niveau 10
20 septembre 2006 à 00:01:14

je peux lire l´anglais mais là c´est beaucoup trop long en plus...

snakeVSsam
snakeVSsam
Niveau 10
20 septembre 2006 à 00:02:14

ouais, ca a l´air cool et interressant...

mais j´ai fais 9 ans d´allemand, donc sur le coup, jsuis un peu dans la merde

je_suis_simplet
je_suis_simplet
Niveau 7
20 septembre 2006 à 00:03:33

Potee Posté le 20 septembre 2006 à 00:01:14

je peux lire l´anglais mais là c´est beaucoup trop long en plus...

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de toute facon on te voit arrivé à des kilometre

"sony c´est du mensonge , du mytho et des mensonges , ils mentent et blablabla"

Nocturne_Rouge
Nocturne_Rouge
Niveau 10
20 septembre 2006 à 00:04:49

<J´ai pas envie de tout lire

Mais je doute de la credibilité, si vraiment un gars de chez Sony devoilait des chses des mois a l´avace, il se serait fais renvoyé depuis logtemps

Et declarer a l´avance que la PS3 serait repoussée en europe ca n´a rien de surnaturel, meme moi je l´ai dis plus d´une foi

Suis je un "prophete" pour autant?

:honte:

Potee
Potee
Niveau 10
20 septembre 2006 à 00:06:53

je suis simplet : alors toi t´es un chef :sarcastic:

t´arrives à lire d´autres pensées dans mon esprit ou seulement celles sur cette news que je n´ai même pas lu et sur laquelle je n´ai donc pas d´avis :question:

Nocturne_Rouge
Nocturne_Rouge
Niveau 10
20 septembre 2006 à 00:08:25

huuuuuuuuuuuuum hum Potee, tu pensais qu´il etait temps d´acheter des espadrilles neuves car ta oublié les tiennes hier soir pendant l´orage...non?

Bah ben non alors je suis pas un prophete finalement, mais comment j´ai fais pour savoir pour le repport de la PS3 alors? :-(

Tribersman
Tribersman
Niveau 10
20 septembre 2006 à 00:09:09

=> ouais, ca a l´air cool et interressant...
mais j´ai fais 9 ans d´allemand, donc sur le coup, jsuis un peu dans la merde

MDR ! ^^
sympa pour détendre l´athmosphère :p

en fait moi je suis déjà surpris que les créateurs de console puisse préparer sur des mois a l´avance :D

je vais surement bientôt aller me coucher
je verai si le topic est encore la demain ^^

c´est la premiere fois qu´on a un forum aussi calme (en même temps a minuit :sarcastic: )

RATCHETBLASTER
RATCHETBLASTER
Niveau 10
20 septembre 2006 à 00:10:12

Ergh,désolé mais je ne me sens vraiment pas chaud pour une traduction...je vais malgré tout vous résumer quelques unes de ces annonces :
-Heavenly Sword est bien plus beau qu´à l´e3,plus violent et plus sanguinolant.Il insiste bien sur le fait que le jeu a fait de gros progrès sur le plan technique et qu´il en met plein la vue.Le jeu est selon lui prévu pour Mars 2007.
-Il dit qu´il ne peut rien dévoiler sur Killzone Ps3,en revanche,il prétend avoir vu une version actuelle du jeu,en développement,et il affirme que le résultat est à la hauteur de ce que l´on a vu en 2005 à l´e3 (hum j´attend de voir ça).
-LAIR est selon lui époustouflant,avec de gigantesques batailles (ils les comparent aux batailles du SDA),et le contrôle gyroscopique des dragons s´avère être excellent,très précis,très intuitif.Au même titre que Warhawk,qui a fait de gros progrès de ce côté depuis l´e3.En même temps,on en attendait pas moins.LAIR est selon lui prévu pour l´été prochain.
-Il parle d´une version Ps3 d´Oblivion,encore plus belle que sur 360 grâce au support des textures hd par le Blu-ray.
-Rien de nouveau du côté de Resistance si ce n´est que son mode multi lui semble très complet.
-Environ 200 jeux Psp sortiront entre ce mois et la période des fêtes de Noël.

Etc.

Potee
Potee
Niveau 10
20 septembre 2006 à 00:11:56

Nocturne_Rouge : je peux savoir de quoi tu me parles ? :doute:

tu me réponds chépakoi alors que je t´ai rien dit à la base...

Nocturne_Rouge
Nocturne_Rouge
Niveau 10
20 septembre 2006 à 00:13:48

Tu as bien fais de dire que ce n´etait que des rumeurs a prendre avec pincettes

Tout sera verifiable au TGS

Et les 200 jeux PSP ca sent l´enorme mytho pour finir

ma prevision a moi en tant que prophete :
-ceux qui le croient lui vont etre decu apres le TGS, et ma voix vaut bien la sienne

RATCHETBLASTER
RATCHETBLASTER
Niveau 10
20 septembre 2006 à 00:17:41

Lol.Je suis d´accord pour les 200 jeux Psp,ca me semble énorme...

En revanche je suis prêt à le croire pour Heavenly Sword et Lair.Ces jeux seront probablement très impressionants dans leur version jouable au Tgs,on vérifiera tout ça.

Pour Killzone...j´attend de voir.Guerrilla m´a déjà bluffé avec Killzone Ps2,qui offrait une réalisation technique que je n´aurai pas cru possible sur Ps2,et pourtant...mais pleine de défauts aussi.J´ai hâte de voir ce qu´ils ont été capables de faire avec la Ps3,même si sincèrement je ne m´attend pas à aussi beau que la vidéo de l´e3 2005.

Oblivion sur Ps3,avec de meilleures textures...pourquoi pas,même si je continue à douter sur une adaptation de ce jeu sur cette console.On verra,ce serait super si ça se confirmait en tout cas.

Voilà...maintenant,place au verdict,place au Tgs :-)))

Tribersman
Tribersman
Niveau 10
20 septembre 2006 à 00:17:46

effectivement tu disait que sa venait d´un gars de chez Sony sa ce voit

comment avoir des news aussi positive ^^
sans les entendres d´un gars des relation public de chez sony

RATCHETBLASTER
RATCHETBLASTER
Niveau 10
20 septembre 2006 à 00:20:39

Lol.

Ecoute,de toute façon,on va vite avoir une réponse pour Heavenly Sword et Lair en tout cas,pas plus tard que dans 3,4 jours.
On verra si le reste suit ^^.

montana1360
montana1360
Niveau 10
20 septembre 2006 à 00:22:07

moi jattend aussi killzone

James_Iha
James_Iha
Niveau 10
20 septembre 2006 à 00:22:33

il parle aussi de Oblivion en version ps3..sur un BR 50go avec les textures HD....mouai on sera fixé tôt ou tard...

Potee
Potee
Niveau 10
20 septembre 2006 à 00:23:53

il compare les graphismes de "Heavenly Sword" à ceux d´"Advent Children"...

bon moi je veux bien dire "Attendons de voir" mais il en rajoute un peu je crois.

James_Iha
James_Iha
Niveau 10
20 septembre 2006 à 00:25:57

il compare les graphismes de "Heavenly Sword" à ceux d´"Advent Children"...

MGS4 je veux bien mais Heavenly Sword il y va un peu fort ou alors le jeu à fait un bon surnaturel graphiquement.

Potee
Potee
Niveau 10
20 septembre 2006 à 00:26:39

"It´s also being given a God of War type violence upgrade, since they found out the graphical realism and brutality of the combat (bloodless though it was) was getting it a Mature anyway. Seriously, it will blow your mother****ing mind"

= toujours sur "Heavenly...", d´après lui la violence sera si barbare qu´on sera choqués, si mature qu´on aura du mal à s´en remettre...

si tout ce qu´il est vrai la PS3 correspondra aux promesses des dirigeants de chez Sony, c´est pour ça que j´y crois très peu.

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