kikou tlm

bien alors je laisse de coté mon PC portable et je reviend sur ma central. avec le CD mandriva 2008.1 X86_64 Free j'upgrade ma 2008.0 X86_64 free.
après des crash systeme répété (écran noir ou figé dont seul la sourie peu bouger) j'ai donc formaté la partition systeme en gardant le /home.
au début ca allé, puis vain le moment de configurer l'affichage (résolution de l'écran) puis mandriva rebloque.

ca commence a me prendre le choux...

là j'ai tous formaté et tout remis. et ca continu. ca peu très bien se faire quand je navigue, quand, je suis au WC ou même pendant l'extinction...

y'a t'il un moyen de voir un journal afin de trouver d'où ca bug???

j'ai oublié. bien que la sourie peu etre déplacé, les deux derniers voyant du clavier clignottent. VerrNum, lui, s'éteind.

Hum je sais pas trop quoi te conseiller, les Mandrake ça fait depuis les versions 9 que je les teste et si j'ai bien remarqué une chose, c'est que les versions 2007 et 2008 sont pourtant très bien.

Par contre il est vrai que je n'ai jamais testé les versions 64 bits. J'ai toujours préféré les x86 traditionnelles pour éviter d'avoir des pépins.

Mandriva c'est comme ubuntu. Moins tu upgrades, moins tu as d'emmerdes.

Au passage, pour les blagues avec les voyants, je soupçonne beaucoup plus xorg que Mandriva.

Sinon, tous les logs sont dans /var/log. Il suffit de savoir les lire.

voici mon Xorg.0.log:

(II) RADEON(0): clock: 94.5 MHz Image Size: 310 x 230 mm
(II) RADEON(0): h_active: 1024 h_sync: 1072 h_sync_end 1168 h_blank_end 1376 h_border: 0
(II) RADEON(0): v_active: 768 v_sync: 769 v_sync_end 772 v_blanking: 808 v_border: 0
(II) RADEON(0): Serial No: ESC0408019
(II) RADEON(0): Ranges: V min: 50 V max: 160 Hz, H min: 30 H max: 72 kHz, PixClock max 110 MHz
(II) RADEON(0): Monitor name: Acer AC713
(II) RADEON(0): EDID (in hex):
(II) RADEON(0): 00ffffffffffff00047204acf6010054
(II) RADEON(0): 280f0103682018782a4f29a057499b26
(II) RADEON(0): 10484ca4420031594559615981800101
(II) RADEON(0): 010101010101ea240060410028303060
(II) RADEON(0): 130036e61000001e000000ff00455343
(II) RADEON(0): 303430383031390a2020000000fd0032
(II) RADEON(0): a01e480b000a202020202020000000fc
(II) RADEON(0): 00416365722041433731330a202000a2
in RADEONProbeOutputModes
(II) RADEON(0): EDID vendor "ACR", prod id 44036
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI-0:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0.
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI-0:ddc2" removed.
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI-0:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0.
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI-0:ddc2" removed.
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI-0:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0.
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI-0:ddc2" removed.
(II) RADEON(0): Output: DVI-0, Detected Monitor Type: 0
(II) RADEON(0): Detected non-DDC Monitor Type: 0
(II) RADEON(0): EDID vendor "ACR", prod id 44036
(II) RADEON(0): Using hsync ranges from config file
(II) RADEON(0): Using vrefresh ranges from config file
(II) RADEON(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines:
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0 94.50 1024 1072 1168 1376 768 769 772 808 +hsync +vsync (68.7 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 25.20 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "720x400"x0.0 28.32 720 738 846 900 400 412 414 449 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0 78.80 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.1 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0 49.50 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "640x480"x84.6 35.00 640 664 728 816 480 483 487 507 -hsync +vsync (42.9 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "800x600"x84.9 56.75 800 848 928 1056 600 603 607 633 -hsync +vsync (53.7 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1024x768"x84.9 94.50 1024 1096 1200 1376 768 771 775 809 -hsync +vsync (68.7 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x59.9 109.00 1280 1368 1496 1712 1024 1027 1034 1063 -hsync +vsync (63.7 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Output: VGA-0, Detected Monitor Type: 1
(II) RADEON(0): EDID data from the display on output: VGA-0 ----------------------
(II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer: ACR Model: ac04 Serial#: 1409286646
(II) RADEON(0): Year: 2005 Week: 40
(II) RADEON(0): EDID Version: 1.3
(II) RADEON(0): Analog Display Input, Input Voltage Level: 0.700/0.700 V
(II) RADEON(0): Sync: Separate
(II) RADEON(0): Max H-Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 32 vert.: 24
(II) RADEON(0): Gamma: 2.20
(II) RADEON(0): DPMS capabilities: Off; RGB/Color Display
(II) RADEON(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode
(II) RADEON(0): redX: 0.626 redY: 0.340 greenX: 0.288 greenY: 0.608
(II) RADEON(0): blueX: 0.148 blueY: 0.064 whiteX: 0.283 whiteY: 0.298
(II) RADEON(0): Supported VESA Video Modes:
(II) RADEON(0): 720x400@70Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 640x480@60Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 640x480@75Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 800x600@75Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 1024x768@75Hz
(II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0
(II) RADEON(0): Supported Future Video Modes:
(II) RADEON(0): #0: hsize: 640 vsize 480 refresh: 85 vid: 22833
(II) RADEON(0): #1: hsize: 800 vsize 600 refresh: 85 vid: 22853
(II) RADEON(0): #2: hsize: 1024 vsize 768 refresh: 85 vid: 22881
(II) RADEON(0): #3: hsize: 1280 vsize 1024 refresh: 60 vid: 32897
(II) RADEON(0): Supported additional Video Mode:
(II) RADEON(0): clock: 94.5 MHz Image Size: 310 x 230 mm
(II) RADEON(0): h_active: 1024 h_sync: 1072 h_sync_end 1168 h_blank_end 1376 h_border: 0
(II) RADEON(0): v_active: 768 v_sync: 769 v_sync_end 772 v_blanking: 808 v_border: 0
(II) RADEON(0): Serial No: ESC0408019
(II) RADEON(0): Ranges: V min: 50 V max: 160 Hz, H min: 30 H max: 72 kHz, PixClock max 110 MHz
(II) RADEON(0): Monitor name: Acer AC713
(II) RADEON(0): EDID (in hex):
(II) RADEON(0): 00ffffffffffff00047204acf6010054
(II) RADEON(0): 280f0103682018782a4f29a057499b26
(II) RADEON(0): 10484ca4420031594559615981800101
(II) RADEON(0): 010101010101ea240060410028303060
(II) RADEON(0): 130036e61000001e000000ff00455343
(II) RADEON(0): 303430383031390a2020000000fd0032
(II) RADEON(0): a01e480b000a202020202020000000fc
(II) RADEON(0): 00416365722041433731330a202000a2
in RADEONProbeOutputModes
(II) RADEON(0): EDID vendor "ACR", prod id 44036
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI-0:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0.
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI-0:ddc2" removed.
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI-0:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0.
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI-0:ddc2" removed.
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI-0:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0.
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI-0:ddc2" removed.
(II) RADEON(0): Output: DVI-0, Detected Monitor Type: 0
(II) RADEON(0): Detected non-DDC Monitor Type: 0

et voici mon Xorg.1.log:

(II) RADEON(0): #0: hsize: 640 vsize 480 refresh: 85 vid: 22833
(II) RADEON(0): #1: hsize: 800 vsize 600 refresh: 85 vid: 22853
(II) RADEON(0): #2: hsize: 1024 vsize 768 refresh: 85 vid: 22881
(II) RADEON(0): #3: hsize: 1280 vsize 1024 refresh: 60 vid: 32897
(II) RADEON(0): Supported additional Video Mode:
(II) RADEON(0): clock: 94.5 MHz Image Size: 310 x 230 mm
(II) RADEON(0): h_active: 1024 h_sync: 1072 h_sync_end 1168 h_blank_end 1376 h_border: 0
(II) RADEON(0): v_active: 768 v_sync: 769 v_sync_end 772 v_blanking: 808 v_border: 0
(II) RADEON(0): Serial No: ESC0408019
(II) RADEON(0): Ranges: V min: 50 V max: 160 Hz, H min: 30 H max: 72 kHz, PixClock max 110 MHz
(II) RADEON(0): Monitor name: Acer AC713
(II) RADEON(0): EDID (in hex):
(II) RADEON(0): 00ffffffffffff00047204acf6010054
(II) RADEON(0): 280f0103682018782a4f29a057499b26
(II) RADEON(0): 10484ca4420031594559615981800101
(II) RADEON(0): 010101010101ea240060410028303060
(II) RADEON(0): 130036e61000001e000000ff00455343
(II) RADEON(0): 303430383031390a2020000000fd0032
(II) RADEON(0): a01e480b000a202020202020000000fc
(II) RADEON(0): 00416365722041433731330a202000a2
in RADEONProbeOutputModes
(II) RADEON(0): EDID vendor "ACR", prod id 44036
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI-0:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0.
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI-0:ddc2" removed.
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI-0:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0.
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI-0:ddc2" removed.
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI-0:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0.
(II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI-0:ddc2" removed.
(II) RADEON(0): Output: DVI-0, Detected Monitor Type: 0
(II) RADEON(0): Detected non-DDC Monitor Type: 0
disable montype: 1
(II) RADEON(0): RADEONRestoreMemMapRegisters() :
(II) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION : 0x1fff0000 0xdfffd800
(II) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION : 0x27ff2000
finished PLL2
finished PLL1
Entering Restore TV
Restore TV PLL
Restore TVHV
Restore TV Restarts
Restore Timing Tables
Restore TV standard
Leaving Restore TV

vous en pensez quoi?

J'en pense :

que http://pastebin.com c'est bien (je dis ça pour plaisanter, mais c'est quand même pas du luxe ce site. )
qu'il n'y a sûrement pas tout le contenu de fichier de log
que d'après xorg, tout va bien
que c'est plutôt les fichiers syslog, messages et kern.log qui te renseigneront sur des causes de crash.
que tu devrais installer une debian
que j'ai dis de la merde au point précédent.

lol excuse moi chris j'ai oublié l'essentiel. c'est que j'ai trouvé un peu bizar les xorg...

donc voici mon truc syslog:

Apr 28 17:49:26 localhost hcid[4140]: Default passkey agent (:1.17, /org/bluez/passkey_agent_5504) registered
Apr 28 17:49:41 localhost net_applet[5666]: ### Program is starting ###
Apr 28 17:49:42 localhost draksnapshot-applet[5670]: ### Program is starting ###
Apr 28 17:49:42 localhost mdkapplet[5668]: ### Program is starting ###
Apr 28 17:49:43 localhost hcid[4140]: Default authorization agent (:1.20, /org/kde/kbluetooth_auth_1234) registered
Apr 28 17:49:44 localhost mdkapplet[5668]: ### Program is exiting ###
Apr 28 17:49:46 localhost draksnapshot-applet[5670]: running: ionice -p 5670 -n7
Apr 28 17:49:57 localhost drakconf.real[5742]: ### Program is starting ###
Apr 28 17:50:03 localhost drakconf.real[5747]: ### Program is starting ###
Apr 28 17:50:10 localhost MandrivaUpdate[5754]: ### Program is starting ###
Apr 28 17:50:39 localhost MandrivaUpdate[5754]: opening the RPM database
Apr 28 17:51:29 localhost MandrivaUpdate[5754]: ### Program is exiting ###
Apr 28 17:51:35 localhost drakconf.real[5747]: modified file /etc/mcc.conf
Apr 28 18:00:10 localhost acpid: client connected from 6079[0:0]
Apr 28 18:00:19 localhost pulseaudio[6330]: main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_NICE, (31, 31)) failed: Opération non permise
Apr 28 18:00:19 localhost pulseaudio[6330]: main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_RTPRIO, (9, 9)) failed: Opération non permise
Apr 28 18:00:19 localhost pulseaudio[6330]: alsa-util.c: Error opening PCM device hw:2: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type
Apr 28 18:00:19 localhost pulseaudio[6330]: module.c: Failed to load module "module-alsa-sink" (argument: "device_id=2
sink_name=alsa_output.pci_1106_3059_alsa_playback_
0"): initialization failed.
Apr 28 18:00:19 localhost pulseaudio[6330]: alsa-util.c: Error opening PCM device hw:2: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type
Apr 28 18:00:19 localhost pulseaudio[6330]: module.c: Failed to load module "module-alsa-source" (argument: "device_id=2
source_name=alsa_input.pci_1106_3059_alsa_capture_
0"): initialization failed.
Apr 28 18:00:19 localhost pulseaudio[6330]: alsa-util.c: Error opening PCM device hw:1: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type
Apr 28 18:00:19 localhost pulseaudio[6330]: module.c: Failed to load module "module-alsa-source" (argument: "device_id=1
source_name=alsa_input.pci_109e_878_alsa_capture_0
"): initialization failed.
Apr 28 18:00:19 localhost pulseaudio[6330]: alsa-util.c: Error opening PCM device hw:0: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type
Apr 28 18:00:19 localhost pulseaudio[6330]: module.c: Failed to load module "module-alsa-source" (argument: "device_id=0
source_name=alsa_input.usb_device_54c_155_noserial
_if1_alsa_capture_0"): initialization failed.
Apr 28 18:00:19 localhost gconfd (klayre-6352): démarrage (version 2.22.0), pid 6352 utilisateur « klayre »
Apr 28 18:00:19 localhost gconfd (klayre-6352): Adresse « xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory » résolue vers une source de configuration en lecture seule à la position 0
Apr 28 18:00:19 localhost gconfd (klayre-6352): Adresse « xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.local-mandatory » résolue vers une source de configuration en lecture seule à la position 1

et encore il en manque un peu. le crash a eu lieu a 17H49

voici le crash précedent :

Apr 28 17:25:37 localhost avahi-daemon[4042]: New relevant interface ath0.IPv4 for mDNS.
Apr 28 17:25:37 localhost avahi-daemon[4042]: Registering new address record for 192.168.1.21 on ath0.IPv4.
Apr 28 17:25:37 localhost kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
Apr 28 17:25:37 localhost kernel: [drm] Initialized radeon 1.28.0 20060524 on minor 0
Apr 28 17:25:37 localhost kernel: ip6_tables: (C) 2000-2006 Netfilter Core Team
Apr 28 17:25:37 localhost NET[4680]: /sbin/dhclient-script : updated /etc/resolv.conf
Apr 28 17:25:37 localhost dhclient: bound to 192.168.1.21 -- renewal in 38719 seconds.
Apr 28 17:25:37 localhost ifplugd(ath0)[3726]: client: Determining IP information for ath0... done.
Apr 28 17:25:37 localhost kernel: ctnetlink v0.93: registering with nfnetlink.
Apr 28 17:25:38 localhost ifplugd(ath0)[3726]: Program executed successfully.
Apr 28 17:25:38 localhost kernel: ClusterIP Version 0.8 loaded successfully
Apr 28 17:25:38 localhost kernel: agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0.
Apr 28 17:25:38 localhost kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 8x mode
Apr 28 17:25:38 localhost kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 8x mode
Apr 28 17:25:39 localhost kernel: [drm] Setting GART location based on new memory map
Apr 28 17:25:39 localhost kernel: [drm] Loading R200 Microcode
Apr 28 17:25:39 localhost kernel: [drm] writeback test succeeded in 1 usecs
Apr 28 17:25:40 localhost kernel: netfilter PSD loaded - (c) astaro AG
Apr 28 17:25:41 localhost kernel: IFWLOG: register target
Apr 28 17:25:41 localhost logger: Shorewall started
Apr 28 17:25:41 localhost kernel: ath0: no IPv6 routers present
Apr 28 17:25:55 localhost pulseaudio[5417]: main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_NICE, (31, 31)) failed: Opération non permise
Apr 28 17:25:55 localhost pulseaudio[5417]: main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_RTPRIO, (9, 9)) failed: Opération non permise
Apr 28 17:25:56 localhost pulseaudio[5417]: alsa-util.c: Device hw:2 doesn't support 44100 Hz, changed to 16000 Hz.
Apr 28 17:25:56 localhost pulseaudio[5417]: alsa-util.c: Device hw:2 doesn't support 2 channels, changed to 1.
Apr 28 17:25:56 localhost pulseaudio[5417]: alsa-util.c: Cannot find fallback mixer control "Mic".
Apr 28 17:25:56 localhost pulseaudio[5417]: alsa-util.c: Device hw:1 doesn't support 44100 Hz, changed to 32000 Hz.
Apr 28 17:25:56 localhost gconfd (aodren-5426): démarrage (version 2.22.0), pid 5426 utilisateur « aodren »
Apr 28 17:25:56 localhost gconfd (aodren-5426): Adresse « xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory » résolue vers une source de configuration en lecture seule à la position 0
Apr 28 17:25:56 localhost gconfd (aodren-5426): Adresse « xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.local-mandatory » résolue vers une source de configuration en lecture seule à la position 1
Apr 28 17:25:56 localhost gconfd (aodren-5426): Adresse « xml:readwrite:/home/aodren/.gconf » résolue vers une source de configuration accessible en écriture à la position 2
Apr 28 17:25:56 localhost gconfd (aodren-5426): Adresse « xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.local-defaults » résolue vers une source de configuration en lecture seule à la position 3
Apr 28 17:25:56 localhost gconfd (aodren-5426): Adresse « xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults » résolue vers une source de configuration en lecture seule à la position 4
Apr 28 17:25:56 localhost hcid[4057]: Default passkey agent (:1.17, /org/bluez/passkey_agent_5430) registered
Apr 28 17:26:11 localhost net_applet[5588]: ### Program is starting ###
Apr 28 17:26:13 localhost mdkapplet[5590]: ### Program is starting ###
Apr 28 17:26:13 localhost draksnapshot-applet[5592]: ### Program is starting ###
Apr 28 17:26:14 localhost hcid[4057]: Default authorization agent (:1.20, /org/kde/kbluetooth_auth_1234) registered
Apr 28 17:26:15 localhost mdkapplet[5590]: ### Program is exiting ###
Apr 28 17:26:17 localhost draksnapshot-applet[5592]: running: ionice -p 5592 -n7
Apr 28 17:49:03 localhost syslogd 1.4.2: restart.

et pour finir (dsl pour les poste a la rache mais je peu pas faire trop long a la fois...) ArchLinux vaut-il une Debian??? car j'ai mal au fion a savoir qu'il y a 3DVD a DL...

Tu prends le CD de netinstall qui fait dans les 40Mo et tu installes par le net, pas besoin de télécharger tout ce merdier.

C'est incroyable le nombre de gens qui pense qu'il faut vraiment prendre les 3 DVDs. Sinon, je ne connais pas Arch, donc je ne peux pas comparer à la Debian.

ok merci a vous, je vais faire des essaye avant de me mettre a debian etch

s/etch/lenny/

lenny est sans doute mieux adaptée pour toi que etch.

Enfin cela dit, installer une debian ne résoudra pas tes problèmes.