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portland rules

Nicomur
Nicomur
Niveau 47
19 juin 2004 à 16:54:07

Woods on se fait un chat live from ze draft le 24???
Pour ne pas rompre avec nos traditions :-)

redmont
redmont
Niveau 9
19 juin 2004 à 17:56:08

Ben déjà sans KB8 c´est mal barré...
Des rumeurs de prostitution de K.Malone du coté des Mavs sont de nouveau au gout du jour je crois.

Pour Shaq le probleme est son salaire.. Du coté de NY pourquoi pas en effet, en plus c´est le style d´équipe qui est rempli de gros contrats dont ils peuvent se delester.

Pour KB8, si c´est NY ce serait uniquement via un sign-and-trade, ce dont je doute surtout si NY se met en tête de s´attacher les services du Shaq.
Sinon Phoenix et les Clippers sont les 2 pistes les plus plausibles.

colombian
colombian
Niveau 10
19 juin 2004 à 22:53:10

Vous avez remarqué vous aussi ?
Boris Diaw était à Fort Boyard samedi. :rire2:
Le contraste avec passe-partout était saisissant :-d

Nicomur
Nicomur
Niveau 47
20 juin 2004 à 02:20:06

Oh ouai! Il a même gagné des clées Bobo! Top! :ok;
:lol:

Nicomur
Nicomur
Niveau 47
20 juin 2004 à 14:41:56

D´après les rumeurs, Portland et New Jerkey se seraient mis d´accord sur un deal envoyant le 22eme pick de NJ à Portland contre du cash et un joueur ( ptetre Eddie Gill) les Nets voulant baisser leur masse salariale afin de pouvoir re-signer Martin cet été...
Si ça se confirme Portland se retrouve avec 3 picks au 1er tour : les 13, 22 et 23 :ok:

Nicomur
Nicomur
Niveau 47
20 juin 2004 à 15:14:44

Tomjanovitch pour remplacer Phil Jackson?
Les Lakers sont entré en contact avec l´ex-coach des Rockets...

Nicomur
Nicomur
Niveau 47
21 juin 2004 à 14:58:26

Nouvelle rumeur pour McGrady :
T-Mac aux Clippers contre Maggette et le 2eme pick...
Pas mal surtout quand on pense k´avec ce deal Orlando pourrait drafter Okafor ET Howard :ouch: même si je vois pas l´interet de prendre 2 joueurs evoluant au même poste...
sinon la rumeur Nets-Blazers est confirmé par ESPN :ok: Portland pourrait se servir de ce 22eme pick pour drafter Telfair...

pabrayb
pabrayb
Niveau 10
21 juin 2004 à 16:56:05

Désole du pavé :) : source NBA.com

Jun 19, 10:57 PM

McGrady, Shaq going to Mavs?

Magic star wants to play with O´Neal

BY JOHN DENTON
FLORIDA TODAY

ORLANDO -- Magic fans already staggered by the declaration that Tracy McGrady has likely played his last game in Orlando might want to sit and brace themselves for this one.

The coming days could evolve into what would assuredly be a Magic fan´s worst nightmare.

McGrady, expected to be traded any day now by the Magic, wants to play with Shaquille O´Neal next season. O´Neal, of course, jilted the Magic eight years ago when he shockingly left as a free agent for Los Angeles.

Apparently, it was no coincidence that on the same day sources claimed McGrady has no plans of returning to the Magic and wants to be traded that O´Neal also told reporters that he wants out of Los Angeles. McGrady and O´Neal are part-time neighbors in suburban Orlando and friends to the point that McGrady often refers to Shaq as " my big brother." Now, the two have discussed in depth a plan that would unite them in Dallas while playing for owner Mark Cuban.

" We talk all the time about it," McGrady told FLORIDA TODAY on Saturday. " Me and the Big Fella are trying to get to Dallas together now."

McGrady said he didn´t want to get into a war of words with the Magic and wasn´t ready yet to officially disclose his desire to be traded. But a team source beat him to the punch Friday, admitting McGrady had asked out of Orlando and that a blockbuster deal would likely come this week.

Magic general manager John Weisbrod didn´t deny the report, but also refused to confirm it. He and McGrady´s Los Angeles-based agent, Arn Tellem, have agreed not to discuss negotiations publicly until a deal is done.

" I certainly will not confirm that T-Mac´s going to be traded," Weisbrod said. " But I´m going to continue to say on T-Mac what I´ve said for the last month, which is that Arn and I are in discussions. We were in discussions late ( Friday) night and we were in discussions early ( Saturday) morning. We will be in discussions ( Saturday) afternoon."

It´s a long shot whether McGrady and O´Neal can actually play in Dallas together. O´Neal is scheduled to make $27.7 million next season, while McGrady is due $14.4 million. Both can opt out of their contracts following next season.

Under NBA rules, the Mavericks would have to send contracts within 15 percent of O´Neal´s and McGrady´s back to the Lakers and Magic to make the trades work. The Mavs have plenty of big-salaried players -- Antoine Walker ( $14.6 million), Michael Finley ( $14.6 million), Dirk Nowitzki ( $12.5 million), Antawn Jamison ( $11.3 million) and Tariq Abdul-Wahad ( $6.7 million) -- but it´s debatable whether the Lakers or Magic would want anyone other than Nowitzki.

" It´s news to me," Cuban wrote of the McGrady-Shaq plan in an e-mail Saturday. " I can only hope."

Mavericks president of basketball operations Donnie Nelson told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram on Friday that " going into this offseason, it was our plan to be very active."

A more likely trade option for the Magic could be with Houston or Indiana. Indiana was thought to have the edge, but the Rockets have apparently crept into the lead for McGrady´s services.

Weisbrod said he expects the McGrady matter to be resolved by Thursday´s draft, when the Magic will pick first overall.

One scenario is that the Magic will work out a trade with Houston or Phoenix, but not announce it for another two weeks. Because of base-year compensation contract rules, Houston point guard Steve Francis and Phoenix forward Shawn Marion can´t be traded until after July 1. The All-Star players would likely have to be included in any deal the Magic works with those teams. Weisbrod even hinted that a deal might go down this week, but it would not be public until after July 1.

" Yes, I expect to know," Weisbrod said when asked if he expects resolution in the McGrady matter before the draft. " I can´t say that I would expect that to be public information. I have every intention of knowing where that´s going when we make these ( draft) decisions."

The Pacers, meanwhile, have an overflow of talent at the two forward positions and are in great need of the scoring that McGrady, the league´s two-time scoring champ, could provide. Also, the Pacers also are hungry to reload after getting beaten in the Eastern Conference Finals by Detroit.

Indiana might be willing to offer a package that includes small forward Ron Artest, the league´s reigning Defensive Player of the Year, and promising power forwards Al Harrington and Jonathan Bender. Because their three salaries equal $19 million, the Magic might have to include either Juwan Howard or Drew Gooden to make the trade work.

" I had some conversations ( with Weisbrod)," Pacers CEO/President Donnie Walsh admitted to the Indianapolis Star on Saturday night. " They listened and they were going to talk to McGrady and then they were going to get back to me. They haven´t gotten back to me. We have interest and we talked about several players. That´s where it was left."

Another factor in a potential Indiana-Orlando trade is that McGrady and Pacers´ Jermaine O´Neal are close friends. Both are represented by Tellem, as is Pacers veteran guard Reggie Miller. Tellem is one of the most powerful agents in sports and was originally against McGrady coming to Orlando when he signed in 2000. Tellem, who favored Chicago then, could be pushing now for McGrady to move on.

" I don´t know that I get a sense of Arn´s personal opinion," Weisbrod said. " Obviously, Arn´s responsibility is to represent the kid and I think obviously the kid´s been all over the board emotionally. It´s a tough thing and it´s understandable, he´s a little inconsistent but that´s pretty understandable. That´s a big decision, he loves Orlando and he´s a young kid. I think now Arn´s job is to stay close to him and make sure he´s representing him however he feels that day."

McGrady said his session with Magic owner Rich DeVos on Friday " was a great, great meeting. We´re still working to try and get on the same page." But Weisbrod referred to the meeting as " window dressing" and " a non-factor of a meeting."

Weisbrod was also quick to shoot down the notion that O´Neal might play for the Magic again. He played in Orlando from 1992-96 before bolting for the Lakers. He said he will likely talk to Lakers GM Mitch Kupchak in the coming days, but an O´Neal return was highly unlikely.

" Obviously, we´ve gotten a lot of contact from various places on that subject and I would expect that I would hear from Mitch on that. When we talk about Shaq moving, they know in his mind and his heart this is the natural place he would want to go," Weisbrod said. " But if you look at the financial piece of that, it´s almost an impossibility.

" He´s owed $58 million over the next two years and he´s got an opt-out at the end of next year. So conceivably with that opt-out he can ( play in Orlando), but short of that, it´s pretty close to mathematically impossible. We´d be fielding a roster of seven guys."

Nicomur
Nicomur
Niveau 47
21 juin 2004 à 18:09:57

Shaq et T-Mac à Dallas?
Cela m´etonnerai beaucoup... je vois mal les Lakers envoyer Shaq dans une equipe de l´Ouest... une fois en playoffs O´Neal se vengerait en humiliant son ex-team... highly unlikely :doute:
Pour McGrady par contre tout est possible...

fuck-tp
fuck-tp
Niveau 10
21 juin 2004 à 19:55:26

Non non vous êtes malade...un vrai pivot à Dallas cela sous entend une défense, alors ca Mr Cuban ne le laissera pas passé, vite vite un démenti :sarcastic:

Je ne pense vraiment aps que le Shaq partirait pour les Mavs :malade: Ni T-Mac, ils ont déjà assez d´arroseur là-bas...

Ced-The-Boss
Ced-The-Boss
Niveau 10
21 juin 2004 à 20:26:37

" Tomjanovitch pour remplacer Phil Jackson?
Les Lakers sont entré en contact avec l´ex-coach des Rockets... "

En tout cas, cela semble se préciser, les 2 parties ayant prévu de se rencontrer demain.

Rudy T. est le favori pour le poste, les autres candidats potentiels étant Kurt Rambis, Jim Cleamons et Michael Cooper ( LA Sparks/WNBA), l´ancien lakérien période showtime. Quant à Riley et Karl, apparemment ce n´étaient que des rumeurs sans fondement.

Bref, l´idéal pour les Lakers seraient de se mettre d´accord rapidement avec Rudy T. ( ou un autre en cas d´échec dans les négociations) d´ci la draft de jeudi...

Nicomur
Nicomur
Niveau 47
21 juin 2004 à 21:42:11

France-Suisse 1 partout à la mi-temps :ouch:
Franchement si y´avait pas eu le miracle contre l´Angleterre on serait où encore? :honte:

fuck-tp
fuck-tp
Niveau 10
21 juin 2004 à 23:42:16

On gagne laborieusement :honte: c´est pathetique...franchement ils ne méritent même pas de passer tant ils furent nullissime, pour l´instant une finale Angleterre - République Tchèque est la plus logique et la plus mérité

Dufftones
Dufftones
Niveau 6
22 juin 2004 à 00:40:49

Quelques articles interessant :

le grand voyage du Shaq -> http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=aldridge_david&id=1825532

le coup des Bobcats -> http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2004/news/story?id=1825791

Portland voit triple -> http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2004/columns/story?columnist=katz_andy&id=1825427

. ..et ben put1 j´me suis défoncé sur les titres!!! :honte:

pabrayb
pabrayb
Niveau 10
22 juin 2004 à 09:45:12

Articles vraiment intéressants : de toute façon le Shaq est partout Mc Grady aussi

starchild29
starchild29
Niveau 4
22 juin 2004 à 14:23:12

Mcgrady et Howard a houston contre mobley francis et cato c presque fait y parait.Non de d.......c bon ça

Nicomur
Nicomur
Niveau 47
22 juin 2004 à 14:58:50

Van Gundy, qui se plaignait ke Yao touchait pas assez de ballons en attaque à cause de ce bouffeur de ballon k´est Francis, il pense donc ke ça va aller mieux avec McGrady? Mouai... j´y crois :doute:

Nicomur
Nicomur
Niveau 47
22 juin 2004 à 15:04:43

Woods, la seule star NBA de notre forum, a disparu de la circulation :snif:
Tu prepares tes valises pour Charlotte ou koi? :rire2:

Nicomur
Nicomur
Niveau 47
22 juin 2004 à 15:13:18

Pour les Bobcats c vraiment bien joué : se retrouver avec le 2eme pick dès la 1ere saison que demander de plus???
Drafter Howard et kil devienne VRAIMENT le nouvo KG d´ici 3-4 ans par exemple :-)

pabrayb
pabrayb
Niveau 10
22 juin 2004 à 15:28:13

C´est vrai que les Bobcats ont l´air de savoir ce qu´ils veulent et ils essayent de ne pas faire comme les Grizzlies avec leurs 17 victoires-65 défaites leur de 1ère saison.
En tout cas, leur 1ère recrue serait le pivot Drobnjak ( orthographe :question: ) des Clippers. Ils veulent vraiment se baser sur des jeunes pour être compétitifs pour les années à venir

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