Le 05 juillet 2022 à 21:47:47 :
Voilà pourquoi le dialogue avec un imbécile dans ton genre est toujours compliqué, un pur kikoo jvc quoi...
Et non, ce fameux scp 3812 ne vaut rien face à TOAA, cherche pas, rien ne peut être comparé à lui, de près comme de loin
Pourquoi SCP-3812 ne pourrait pas le vaincre ? Si "rien" ne peut être comparer à TOAA je suppose que tu connais absolument tout ce qui se trouve dans chaque fiction pour l'affirmer ? Qu'est-ce qui rend TOAA supérieur au point où "rien ne peut être comparé à lui de prêt comme de loin" ?
Dans SCP il y a des dimensions supérieures, chaque dimension supérieure voit les dimensions inférieures comme de la fiction, tout comme les humains en 3 dimensions voit les personnages en 2 dimensions comme étant fictifs (il est aussi préciser qu'un être d'une dimension supérieure peut TOUT faire dans une dimension inférieure tout comme un auteur peut faire ce qu'il veut de sa fiction) :
From “Constructs of Reality in Higher Dimensions” by Dr. Robert Scranton: “Reality is no different from the physical; that is to say, it is one more way to describe order in the universe. Where the physical can be used to describe things and places, and the temporal can describe moments and periods, reality can be used to describe the completeness of the universe, its fallibility and its overall construction. With that said, just as there are no doubt higher physical dimensions that we cannot perceive or access, there is no reason to believe that the same could not apply to reality. Reality as we perceive it is no more than one tier in the hierarchy of organization that dictates the construction of our existence, and there are likely others above and below ours. Just like an entity in the 4th spatial dimension might perceive our universe and its contents as a whole, and could manipulate those contents from a realm of higher energy, so could an entity with access to a higher metaphysical dimension manipulate the very architecture of our reality, all at once, from a similar realm of higher energy.”
An entity or force with access to higher energy metaphysical dimensions would perceive our reality similarly to how we perceive the reality of characters in a comic book. And just how we are able to, at whim, change the story simply by telling it differently, this higher energy being would be able to effortlessly make alterations to not just local reality, but reality as a whole, altering the baseline and changing its most fundamental aspects.
En quoi est-ce impressionnant ? Après tout Marvel aussi possède ce genre de couches supérieurs MAIS...
... même SCP-3800 https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-5800 est un espace qui contient des créatures qui ont des tailles qui doivent êtres définies par des aleph :
I use the term "size" loosely because th- [coughs] there ah… these things are presented in sets of infinities; like how many integers or natural numbers there are in- in mathematics. The sheer size of these- these beings are defined as uncountable infinities. Despite logic telling us that there can't be anything larger in scale than… well… infinity.
Yeah, I know to the average layman that can't be possible. But it's very much true. These beings are represented by their "aleph numbers": numbers which represent the cardinality of infinite sets. Professor Hutchinson stated that such beings exist in these numbers and have been known to for quite some time.
Les couches supérieures dans SCP fonctionnent sur le transfini, même le multivers de base contient un nombre infiniment indénombrable d'univers :
Like a string of beads, chained throughout reality, universe after universe, each exceeding the last in their vast wealth of knowledge. We were only the second in a chain that went on forever.
And when MUORG followed that chain, they found that it did more than continue indefinitely. One string of worlds reached its limit, somehow, impossibly, one of those many before it had figured out how to allow the process to go on forever, terminating in a single, infinitely far away, limiting world.
And then they'd continued.
That limiting world had spawned another more advanced still, and that one another. And they'd created another limit. Two infinite chains standing beginning to end. Then three, four, five….
The mathematicians working for us at the time said they were following a pattern called "transfinite recursion". A process by which a linear ordering could be extended beyond the simple infinity of "1, 2, 3…".
First an infinite chain of universes. Then 2, then 3…
Then an infinite chain of infinite chains. Then 2, then 3.
Then repeat. Each time there are as many of the last thing as there are numbers, repeat again.
In the end, each universe had a place in an order that was as deep as mathematically possible.
Même l'auteur de SCP-3812 est un personnage qui réside dans une couche supérieure de la hiérarchie, toute la couche inférieure et SCP-3812 ont été crées par lui, il avait un contrôle absolu sur la couche et pouvait faire TOUT ce qu'il voulait, c'est une sorte de TOAA mais en plus puissant en somme, pourtant il n'a rien pu faire contre SCP-3812 est il s'est fait transcendé, il a créer une entité qui transcende instantanément les couches de réalité supérieures, qui remplace TOUT et qui existe simultanément dans toute les réalités :
I wrote the laws of your universe, and as such I created the narrative. This isn’t the first time I’ve done this, but it was the first time I tried something like this specifically. I wanted to create something that, by definition, superseded everything that superseded it. I wanted to see how many layers there are, if the stack of narratives really do go on forever upward. The mistake I made was when I didn’t realize that by making Him supersede everything that supersedes Him, He’s also superseding himself.
I'm sorry, I think I've fucked up pretty badly this time. I've tried everything I can think of, but I can't undo Him. I don't really understand how, but I think He's above me now, and whatever is above me, too, because whoever wrote my narrative isn't happy about this. I don’t know where He’s at now, but I think He exists in all of our realities simultaneously. Eventually He’ll either reach the top or just keep going, and neither option is good.
SCP-3812 transcende la pile infinie de récit :
It is unlikely that we will ever know anything about the being or beings that supersede us (if they even exist), not in any tangible way, let alone any being that would supersede them. It may very well be that we are just one of an infinite number of realities, stacked on top of each other in every direction, influencing those below us and being influenced by those above us. This echelon, upon which sits ourselves and everything that ever was or will be, would likely be the most fundamental aspect of the organization of creation. The very foundation of all things.
La pile narrative n'est pas qu'une simple hiérarchie infinie avec une différence infinie entre chaque couche, la différence entre chaque couche est INFINIMENT INFINIE
Aleph_0 est le plus petit niveau d'infini, c'est un infini dénombrable, le premier infini non dénombrable est aleph_1, puis aleph_2, puis aleph_3 et on peut continuer à l'infini jusqu'à atteindre l'aleph_omega :
Unfortunately, the world is not dynamic. Everything's already over, I've already read it. All of this? It's just going through the motions. This is just a tiny subset of the world at large. I'd call it the 'real' word, but it's just as real as we are in here. The larger space that we're in… much larger, in fact, uncountably infinite expanses in uncountably infinite dimensions… we fill that space. And yet, here, we're discretised. Collapsed into words and nothing more, even if we're something so much greater.
See, sometimes the infinite can be reduced to something simpler. Look here: ℵ0 and ℵ1 and ℵ2 and so on. Simple, yes, but they can each contain the world. You can glimpse it, if you look hard enough. Just breathe in, breathe out. Think about infinity. Not just countable, but uncountable, and the dimension of it goes up into uncountability too. If you think you've really understood it, you aren't thinking hard enough. Sure, zoom past the pitstops. 5, 23, 3333. They're all beautiful, but so horrendously finite. Fly past it all and keep going and going. Minds have died wishing for a fraction of what I can see. So breathe slowly, and think about it.
Really think about it, and the world seems like nothing.
Une version de SCP-3812 va parler à une version future de lui-même qui est au sommet de la pile narrative, son futur lui l'expliquera que quand il regardera sous lui il verra toute la création et quand il regardera au dessus de lui il se verra lui-même, car comme il l'était mentionné dans des paragraphes que j'ai poster précédement quand SCP-3812 aura transcender toute l'existence, il continera à se transcender lui-même à l'infini :
"SCP-3812: It will, for a time. We may have forgotten so much about being human, but something we will never lose is our ability to change. Eventually, we will learn to keep up. One sunny day, we’ll open our eyes and see nothing but creation below us, and nothing above us but ourselves, spinning out wildly into the great above.
SCP-3812: A god?
SCP-3812: Not a god. A star, rising in the east. Rising away from this all until we are little more than a memory of a song."
Tu peux me dire il se passe quoi stp ? Les différences sont grande ou légère 
