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Topic officiel MANCHESTER UNITED

lmarco12
lmarco12
Niveau 10
26 novembre 2003 à 20:49:40

T. HOWARD
M. SILVESTRE
R. FERDINAND
J. O´SHEA
N. BUTT
R. GIGGS
Q. FORTUNE
KLEBERSON
D. FLETCHER
CRISTIANO RONALDO
D. FORLAN

lmarco12
lmarco12
Niveau 10
26 novembre 2003 à 20:51:55

Désolé ça fait gros écrit comme ça ^^

Ruud pas titulaire remplacé par le duo C.Ronaldo-Forlan, avec Kleberson de nouveau titulaire, on va voir ce que ça va donner ^^

Seven_
Seven_
Niveau 10
26 novembre 2003 à 21:47:58

0-0 a la mitemps, but de Becks pour le real

ivguenyp
ivguenyp
Niveau 10
26 novembre 2003 à 21:50:06

ca donne pas grand chose pour l´instant

ivguenyp
ivguenyp
Niveau 10
26 novembre 2003 à 22:45:20

laborieux mais on a gagne quand meme ! !

Becks93
Becks93
Niveau 10
26 novembre 2003 à 23:05:11

Ouais 1-0 ya déja eux mieux ^^ mais c déja sa :-p

DienamaX
DienamaX
Niveau 10
27 novembre 2003 à 10:21:29

super forlan a la 85´ ^^

non maintenant il faut gagner contre stuttgart et on peut etre 1er . ... en tout cas on est qualifié . .... mais il faut absolument etre premeir sinon il y a risk de tomber contre le real ou le milan . ...

lepix
lepix
Niveau 10
27 novembre 2003 à 10:23:21

ou monaco ^^

DienamaX
DienamaX
Niveau 10
27 novembre 2003 à 10:30:42

After beating Panathinaikos 1-0 to secure their place in the next round of the Champions League, Manchester United will now host Stuttgart in a fortnight´s time, aware that they must win to clinch top spot in Group E and potentially avoid a European giant in the knockout phase.

And manager Sir Alex Ferguson admits it will be a boost to finish top of the group.

" We improved in the second half in terms of the penetration," said Ferguson. " We played well and could have scored more.

" We had to be aware of any counter attack situation and concentration was the key.

" We won the game as we intended to do and now we have a play-off situation against Stuttgart.

" The important thing was to qualify first of all and now it is a matter of pride. Psychologically, it will be good to win the group."

Ferguson also had words of praise for goalscorer Diego Forlan: " We felt Diego had done a great job on his own and we got more penetration from David [Bellion] with the 4-4-2 formation," added the United boss.

" Diego´s in great form and he could have scored two or three. He´s always moving and aware of the chances."

lmarco12
lmarco12
Niveau 10
27 novembre 2003 à 11:07:13

Avec les pbs financiers de Leeds, on parle d´Alan Smith un peu partout ^^

ivguenyp
ivguenyp
Niveau 10
27 novembre 2003 à 15:26:10

smith gros boooofff quand meme

lepix
lepix
Niveau 10
27 novembre 2003 à 15:52:24

avec nos merveilleux joueurs on a réussi a faire couler leeds ^^

DienamaX
DienamaX
Niveau 10
27 novembre 2003 à 15:54:31

Giggs: Good enough for greatness?

By Tom Fordyce

[ GIGGS´ MAN UTD HONOURS
Premiership: 1993, ´94, ´96, ´97, ´99, 2000, 2001, 2003
FA Cup: 1994, ´96, ´99
League Cup: 1992
Champions League: 1999 ]

On 29 November, Ryan Giggs celebrates his 30th birthday.

Now, more than 12 years after making his Manchester United debut, Giggs is the most decorated player in the club´s history.

But, as he enters his fourth decade, has he fulfilled his potential? A crazy question, on the face of it.

This is a man who has won eight league titles, three FA Cups, one League Cup, one Intercontinental Cup and the holy grail of the Champions League.

It is a haul that only the stalwarts of the Liverpool side of the late 1970s and early 1980s can match.

Yet the perception exists that Giggs as an individual player, rather than Giggs the United man, has never truly evolved into the superlative talent his early displays promised.

Is this impression justified? Certainly the level of attention that Giggs receives has fallen away since the heady days of the mid-1990s, his position as the glamour boy of Old Trafford usurped by David Beckham.

To the casual observer, there are less of those coruscating runs of old, fewer defenders left trailing in the wake of a player who once sizzled through defences like a firework through the autumn air.

Then again, which of us are the same at 30 as we were at 17? The Giggs of today, say his admirers, is a far more complete player than the raw teenager who exploded into the United first team back in 1991.

Premiership defenders are not stupid and a young player does not stay an unknown quantity for long

Giggs would have been finished had he not attempted to develop his game beyond beating a full-back on the outside.

Ferguson and Giggs have stuck by each other

Just ask Lee Sharpe, Giggs´ predecessor on the United left, whose star burned brightly at the start of his twenties yet who failed to add enough to his game to prolong his top flight career past his 27th birthday.

Giggs has become more than just a winger. He can now play down the middle, where his turn of pace and ability on the ball make him far harder to mark than out wide where a defender and wide midfielder can narrow him down.

There is even an argument - and one which a certain A. Ferguson is rumoured to agree with - that Giggs is more effective in the middle that the now-departed Beckham.

While both players have quick minds and a good range of passing, only Giggs can beat a man with a change of pace and dribbling skills.

Injuries have taken their toll, less in damaging Giggs´ game than in causing him to miss large chunks of previous seasons.

A nagging problem like Giggs´ hamstring complaint, which until the last 12 months kept him from putting together long unbroken spells in the United team, is more disruptive to a player than one might imagine.

Maybe the final word should go to Ferguson. This is a manager who has shown, time and time again, that he has no problem selling United heroes if he feels they can add no more to his side.

Andrei Kanchelskis, Paul Ince and Beckham were all flogged when most United fans felt they were at their peak. They were also all sold way before their 30th birthdays.

Yet Ferguson continues to stick by Giggs, the player he signed to apprentice terms on his 14th birthday by going round in person to his mother´s house.

Giggs is the one constant in Ferguson´s title-winning sides. No other player has been there from the first championship in 1993 to the latest in 2003.

Who can say that he won´t still be there on his 35th birthday

DienamaX
DienamaX
Niveau 10
27 novembre 2003 à 15:56:31

The teenage tornado

By Tom Fordyce

It is 2 March 1991, and a chilly winter Saturday at Old Trafford.

With Manchester United trailing Everton 2-0 in a Division One battle, Alex Ferguson decided to bring on a skinny, dark-haired winger to change the game around.

Remember this fresh-faced youngster?

It wasn´t Lee Sharpe, or even Russell Beardsmore. It was a former Manchester City schoolboy who would go on to become the most decorated player in United´s history.

Although he was unable to change the course of that game, more than 12 years on, it is easy to forget the impact the 17-year-old Ryan Giggs had on the domestic game.

This was pre-Premiership, pre-fancy foreign signings, pre-Champions League. English football was in the doldrums.

Into this moribund scene burst a player who, with one breathtaking swerving run, promised more excitement than a month of Clayton Blackmores and Mike Phelans.

" He was such a talent," remembers Giggs´ United team-mate Paul Parker.

" When I arrived at United in July 1991, the club was already full of talk about this young winger. Alex Ferguson mentioned him to me when I signed, while Steve Bruce was already raving about him.

" It was Ryan´s pace that was so special. If you weren´t on his team in training matches, you were in trouble. Everyone at United likened him to George Best, but Ryan was so much quicker than Best.

" If you were marking him, you just had to let him go. You didn´t bother chasing him because you didn´t want to embarrass yourself.

" I was reasonably quick, but I never wanted to test myself against him. You might try to trip him up, but he´d get his own back at you."

Impossible to handle

Giggs initially struggled to get into a side that already boasted the speedy wing talents of Lee Sharpe and Andrei Kanchelskis.

" He would try certain things and you´d see the boss tearing his hair out and going mad at him," says Parker. " But Ryan would just shrug his shoulders and say, ´Well maybe you´re right, but I wanted to do that´.

" Ryan had the ability to make something happen, even when you gave him the ball in tight areas.

" It was frustrating at times, because sometimes you´d want him to keep it and he´d try something difficult.

12 years on, Giggs has won more honours than any United player in history
" But his pace was a revelation to British football at that time. It was what made the United side so dangerous.

" People just couldn´t handle Ryan. If you found him in space, managed to isolate one defender against him, you knew Ryan would create something.

" We would break so fast that it would sometimes catch us defenders out.

" You would clear your lines and look up to see the ball on the edge of their box, thinking to yourself, ´We´d better score here, because if it breaks down there´s a massive gap in the middle´.

" It was great for me and Denis Irwin as full-backs, because any wingers playing against us would spend all their time tracking back defensively against our wingers. We´d hardly have anything to do."

Giggs found several players in the United team who were willing to guide him through those first few seasons.

Bryan Robson recommended he sign up with Harry Swales, the agent he himself had inherited from Kevin Keegan, and Ferguson did the rest.

" The boss brought Ryan through from a troubled childhood and always saw him as one of his own," says Parker.

" Ryan got very close to Paul Ince, and Incey took him under his wing. Ryan would also socialise quite a lot with Lee Sharpe. But he was always his own man and made his own decisions.

" He didn´t go out looking for publicity. Apart from doing a few promotional things for his boot company, he was content to be known as Giggs the footballer.

" We used to socialise quite a lot as a team, and when you went into places there would always be a lot of attention, with people going in particular for Ryan.

" But he´d often go off by himself into a corner, happy to be the local boy. And we´d all look out for him - as soon as you noticed anything getting silly, we´d move on somewhere else.

" Ryan didn´t want all the stuff that went with the fame. As soon as there was any hint of trouble, he would be off. He was very single-minded."

=====> GIGGSY GIGGSY GIGGSY , THE BEST . ....

DienamaX
DienamaX
Niveau 10
27 novembre 2003 à 16:26:30

Owen, en fin de contrat avec Liverpool en juin, et Ruud Van Nistelrooy seraient les autres objectifs du champion d’Espagne. Affaire à suivre donc.

===>il peut se mettre les doigts ds le c** , ruud n´ira jamais chez c pourris ^^

asseforever
asseforever
Niveau 10
27 novembre 2003 à 17:43:54

pour asseforever > ds le new cm4 g vendu certains joueurs , comme toi mais je suis etonn"=é par ce que tu en a tiré ! ! !!!!!

moi sa ma fait :

G.Neville 6 ME a liverpool ===> 7ME a newcastle
Forlan 7 ME a osasuna ===> 11ME a l´atletico ( tu leur propose il accepte direct ! ! )
butt 4 ME a aston villa ==>7ME a boro

ouais mais g du repousser le transferts de joaquin d´une semaine parce que j avais po assez donc g du vendre ds l urgences

lmarco12
lmarco12
Niveau 10
27 novembre 2003 à 19:07:24

Owen a prolongé je crois à Liverpool, ou trouvé un accord tout du moins. Et Ruud, pas touche ^^ Ils ont qu´à prendre Drogba ^^

lepix
lepix
Niveau 10
27 novembre 2003 à 19:10:29

et toi tu veux prendre mon poing dans ta gueule? ^^

lmarco12
lmarco12
Niveau 10
27 novembre 2003 à 19:41:20

Okay, Bakayoko ? ^^

s_2l
s_2l
Niveau 9
27 novembre 2003 à 21:03:30

J´espère que Ruud et man utd ne vont pas faire les cons, et le real enfin Perez si il achete encore a attaquant c kil y a un probleme !

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