je vien,s de revenir et qu´est ce que j´apprends

glazer va peut étre gagné Dites moi que c´est pas possible que MU ne va pas étyre endétté , que le MU que j´aime et connait ne va pas disparaitre

le je suis dégouté Si on est endétté on parle de ventes de joueurs et méme d´old trafford . ..

a coté de ca les transferts je m´en fous un peu la

Sold Trafford
Manchester United´s Old Trafford stadium could be renamed if US tycoon Malcolm Glazer buys the club. The businessman may sell the rights to the 95-year-old arena´s title to recoup some of the cost of his £800million takeover battle. Mark Longden of the Manchester United Independent Supporters Association said: " It would be horrible, disgusting. People would not go there. There would be more folk outside protesting than watching the games. I will not be going near the place anyway if Glazer takes over. But many more will stay away if Old Trafford is taken away from us."

< << j´espere ne jamais voir ca de ma vie . ..

je suis vraiment abattu la .

rien n´est fait mais c´est mal parti.

Et franchement vendre Old Trafford c´est un peu stupide, qui peut bien avoir envie de l´acheter?

Renommer Old Trafford et pourquoi pas changer le nom du club et des joueurs tant qu´il y est!!

Il va falloir faire une greve de stade ou un truc dans le genre pour lui faire comprendre qu´on veut pas de lui.

des gens qui voudront transformer le stade en loge pour se faire de la thune . ..

glazer va tuer le club pour se faire de l´argent je suis dégouté . ...

United fans in Glazer protest

Hundreds of Manchester United fans staged a demonstration at Old Trafford on Wednesday evening to protest against Malcolm Glazer´s proposed takeover of the club.

Around 1,000 supporters gathered after word was spread by internet and mobile phones.

The demonstration was trouble-free in the main, although fans sung songs which contained death threats to the American tycoon.

Police made two arrests for public order offences during the two-hour protest, but maintained a low-key presence.

The rally came after Glazer launched his third attempt to buy United earlier in the week.

The American - who owns NFL outfit the Tampa Bay Buccaneers - has handed over ´detailed proposals´ of his takeover plans, and the club´s board have confirmed that they have entered into discussions, sparking fury amongst fans.

" The reason for the protest was to send a message to David Gill and the Manchester United board not to surrender the Manchester United company books to Malcolm Glazer and his bankers, and I hope they´ve got the message tonight," stated Sean Bones, vice chairman of fans pressure group, Shareholders United.

" Literally the whole Manchester United fanbase - Malcolm Glazer´s potential customers - absolutely detest him, and there´s no way he can win this battle because you wouldn´t buy a company where all your customers hate you."

j´espére qu´il vont faire un truc en angleterre . ...

parce que la c´est grave l´avenir de mU est en jeu

c´est à ce demander si c´est pas son idée d´agrandir le stade. D´ailleurs si OT est vendu, on risque pas de l´agrandir.

si en y mettant des loges supoer cher et super chicos . .

on parle aussi de la revente de joueurs pour combler le deficit . .

et je suis pas sur que cette fois les supporteurs arrivent a faire capoter le truc . .

si ya plus de joueurs et que les places sont plus chers le stade risque de pas se remplir aussi souvent que d´habitude.

Faudrait trouver un gentil riche pour faire capoter son plan.

http://www.man-utd.dk/su/video/stubbsy_on_danish_tv.wmv

pour sa campagne il promet que fergie aura autant pour les transferts que chelsea . .

mais avec quel argent ce n´est pas abra. Et je n´ai pas envie que MU devienne chelsea un club seulement gouverné par le fric . ..

Mu a toujours été un club a part .

Glazer on ne veut pas de toi

Rothschild will drop Glazer if he goes hostile
By Andrew Murray-Watson ( Filed: 30/01/2005)
http://www.money.telegrapaph.co.uk/mo...xfrontcity.html
NM Rothschild, the investment bank advising Malcolm Glazer on his controversial £800m attempt to buy Manchester United, has told the US sports tycoon that it will cease to work for him if he launches a hostile bid.

Rothschild is trying to put together a consortium to fund a new bid from Glazer. The bid would include less debt and more cash upfront than was envisaged in the American´s first bid. This was rejected by the Man Utd board in October because of concerns that the offer´s structure was too highly leveraged and would have left the club saddled with huge debts.

An executive with links to the Glazer camp said: " There is no question of this going hostile. There are a series of concerns that have been raised by the Man Utd board, which we are working through. But the money for a bid is not in place yet. It´s much too early to say what is going to happen."

In November JP Morgan, the US investment bank, resigned as Glazer´s original financial backer when he ignored its advice and used his stake in Man Utd to successfully block the re-election of three directors at the company´s annual meeting.

It is believed that Rothschild will only approach the Man Utd board once it is able to make a firm offer. It will not contact JP McManus and John Magnier, the Irish duo who own a 28 per cent stake in Man Utd, until a formal approach is made.

David Gill, the chief executive of Manchester United, is prepared to sit down with Avi and Joel Glazer, Malcolm Glazer´s two sons, who are leading the bid, once a formal offer has been made.

Gill admits he has a duty as a director of a public company to consider an offer regardless of the objections of the legion of Man Utd fans who have consistently opposed Glazer´s plan to bid for the club.

Glazer´s ´risky´ bid could see United go bankrupt
By Nick Harris
08 February 2005

Malcolm Glazer´s restructured bid for Manchester United contains similar elements of financial risk that led to his initial offer for the club being described as a " ticking time bomb" for the club.

Leaked details of his original buy-out proposal, published yesterday in the journal Legal Business, confirmed that Glazer intended to borrow £500m from the investment bank JP Morgan to help fund a takeover then estimated at £815m. Other key factors in the original plan included selling Old Trafford for £175m in a leaseback scheme, renaming the stadium in a £15m-a-year rights deal, and hiking ticket prices to help repay Glazer´s borrowings.

An anonymous analyst, described by the journal as " close to JP Morgan", examined the the original bid and concluded that if any one part of Glazer´s debt-driven plan fell through, " then the club will struggle to pay its debt and could end up bankrupt. The financial burden would be a ticking time bomb."

The initial bid was rejected by United´s board for being overly leveraged, or in laymen´s terms, too reliant on debt. United confirmed to the Stock Exchange yesterday that they have now received details of the revised bid. Shares in the club rose 4.8 per cent to close at 281p last night.

Yet it is understood that the revised deal differs from the original proposal in only two key areas. The proposed sale of the stadium has been scrapped, and instead of Glazer borrowing £500m from JP Morgan, he will borrow only around £300m. Contentiously, another £200m-£250m would come from issuing " preferred stock", or special shares, which Glazer hopes will not be considered as a conventional debt burden.

The potential problem for Glazer is that United´s board might consider the preferred stock as " disguised debt", or up-front investment that would still need to be repaid at a fixed period in the near future, possibly three years after any takeover.

The board´s dilemma is that arguing that the preferred stock is debt may be impossible. " Technically it´s equity," said Andrew Lee, a City analyst with Dresdner Kleinwort Wasserstein.

But if the board accepts it as equity and recommends Glazer´s bid, the end result could still theoretically lead to a debt-ridden United struggling to repay its preferred stock investors a few years down the line. " The bigger picture is how [Glazer] would end up paying it back," Lee said.

In other words, the same financial risks could apply to the new bid as to the first bid.

Glazer has shrouded his plans in secrecy, keeping details limited to an inner coterie on a " need-to-know" basis. Such measures have been taken partly for the protection of those working with him. Legal Business reported that an unnamed senior partner in the legal firm Allen & Overy, which is acting for Glazer, attended last year´s United AGM with a bodyguard in case United fans became hostile.

Informed sources say the partner was Andrew Ballheimer, an English lawyer who was hand-picked by Glazer to work on the case because of the excellent reputation he earned in New York, where Glazer came to know of him.

Some 50 staff at Allen & Overy are working on the United deal, and have been warned to be " vigilant" to attacks from militant anti-Glazer United fans. The firm has already been bombarded by an assortment of e-mail threats, black faxes and abusive phone calls.

A spokeswoman for Allen & Overy declined to comment on whether Ballheimer was working for Glazer and denied suggestions that senior figures from the firm are currently using 24-hour security to protect them.

United´s five-man board is expected to meet legal representatives today in Manchester to discuss Glazer´s latest bid. The board is led by the non-executive chairman Roy Gardiner, and also comprises the club´s chief executive, David Gill, finance director Nick Humby and non-executives Ian Much and the recently appointed Goldman Sachs banker Jim O´Neill. The meeting did not happen yesterday because Gill was at a Uefa meeting in Geneva.

If the United board does indeed recommend Glazer´s bid to shareholders, the 76-year-old American will still need to broker a pivotal a deal with J P McManus and John Magnier before taking over. The Irishmen own 28.89 per cent of United, a stake they would sell at the right price.

http://sport.independent.t.co.uk/foot...sp?story=608867

< << si glazer reprends le club il vend old trafford pour le relouer aprés .

Joe McLean, football specialist and partner at accountancy giants Grant Thornton, believes Glazer may try to break the collective Premiership TV deal and go it alone to raise revenues.

This could have a serious knock on effect on football finance.

< << glazer veut vendre les droits de MU a la télé . Il veut casser les droits collectifs pour se faire de la thune. S´il rachéte le club , Mu est mort .

il va etre temps de trouver un emir pour regler ce probleme...

Glazer shadow looms over Man Utd

Manchester United´s future is once more unclear as US tycoon Malcolm Glazer launches his third takeover bid at Old Trafford.

Glazer has not been put off his plans to buy United despite two failed previous attempts and incurring the wrath of Red Devils´ supporters, who have furiously campaigned to keep him away from their club.

But Manchester United plc is a business, and if Glazer is offering shareholders £3 per share as reported, his most recent bid could prove a hard one to turn down.

BBC Sport examines how Glazer´s interest and stake in United has developed over the last 18 months and what his taking control could mean for the world´s most famous football club.

TAKEOVER BID ONE, OCTOBER 2004
Glazer´s interest in United began in March 2003 when he bought a 2.9% stake in the club, and over the next year and a half he slowly increased his share until it reached 28.1% in October 2004.

Glazer used his stake to launch his first takeover bid for the club, thought to be worth about £800m, though much of it would have been borrowed money and dependent on United´s financial success in the future.

Supporters´ groups were livid, furiously protesting against the tycoon´s proposal. United director Maurice Watkins became a target after selling £1m worth of shares to Glazer, and his black Jaguar was daubed with red paint by militant fans´ group Manchester Education Committee ( MEC).

Its members also invaded the pitch during a United reserve game against Birmingham to protest, while the Red Action Group campaign outside the offices of investment bank JP Morgan, who had been advising Glazer on his bid, before marching to the Stock Exchange.

TAKEOVER BID TWO, DECEMBER 2004
Not put off by his first failed attempt to buy United, Glazer left it just two months before launching another bid for the 15-times English champions.

In November, the 76-year-old had taken revenge on the club for refusing his stalked takeover bid by blocking the re-elections of United directors Watkins, Andy Anson and Philip Yea at their Annual General Meeting.

Glazer´s actions cost him as JP Morgan dropped him as a client, but this did not deter a second offer coming just before Christmas after he had made revisions to the original bid.

He promised there would be more cash and less borrowing in his new offer, but again his plans were snubbed by chief executive David Gill.

Glazer´s relationship with the United supporters worsened when Bob Leffler, a Baltimore-based PR agent working on his behalf, claimed fans´ fears of the takeover are based on " xenophobia".

His firm was subsequently targeted with abusive e-mails and unwanted pizza deliveries.

TAKEOVER BID THREE, FEBRUARY 2005
Glazer made it clear he is not going to give up on his plans to buy United. The club revealed that they had received a detailed proposal from the Glazer family, with his two sons Avi and Joel leading this particular attempt.

According to the Financial Times, investment bank NM Rothschild is backing Glazer´s latest bid, which is believed to have increased the amount of equity from the two previous offers.

Sources in the City believe this latest bid is one which the United directors will find hard to resist, offering as it does £3 per share.

Man Utd fans stage protest

With Glazer closer than ever to taking control of the club, the fans´ groups have started to wage an even fiercer campaign against the man they believe will risk the future of the club for personal gain.

Police investigate Glazer threats

MEC has issued threats against the American and his family and any financial institutions involved in supporting the bid on their website and Shareholders United gathered for a peaceful protest in the Old Trafford car park.

For the first time, United players have got involved in the debate, with both record signing Rio Ferdinand and legendary Welsh winger Ryan Giggs saying they do not think there is any need for the club to change ownership.

WHAT WILL THE FUTURE HOLD?
For Glazer´s takeover to be successful he needs the support of Cubic Expression, the investment vehicle of horse racing tycoons John Magnier and JP McManus, who are United´s largest shareholder with nearly 29%.

Without their support, Glazer simply cannot own enough shares in United to take overall control of the club.

What may be on his side, however, is that Cubic Expression bought their shares for a cheaper price than what Glazer has paid and also what he is thought to be offering, making it an attractive business proposition.

Should Glazer complete his takeover, fans fear he will raise ticket prices at Old Trafford to help pay the £300m debt he is expected to accrue as part of the deal.

There are also reports he will endeavour to tap into new revenue streams, possibly attempting to break United away from the rest of the Premiership and arrange a separate pay-per-view channel to watch their games.

Whatever the future holds for Glazer and United, the supporters´ groups have warned they will fight until the end to try to keep their club away from the clutches of the Florida-based businessman.

" We promised at the start that a civil war would be unleashed if Malcolm Glazer were allowed to proceed," said Shareholders United vice-chairman Oliver Houston.

" Emotions are running extremely high. People will go to extraordinary lengths to defend their club."

< <<The general feeling is that the club is in good hands, it cannot get better than it is

Man Utd´s Ryan Giggs

< <<<No one knows what this guy will be bringing to the table

Man Utd´s Rio Ferdinand

< <<<<There is nothing Man Utd fans can do. They can complain, but it´s curtains for them. They may not want him but they will get him

David Cummings, head of UK equities for Standard Life Investments

< <<<<People will go to extraordinary lengths to defend their club

Shareholders United vice-chairman Oliver Houston

on est dans la merde . Glazer va tuer le club pour se faire des profits . .

Mais jle comprends pas ce type les supporters les joueurs et meme Ferguie ne veulent pas de lui et il continue encore