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Scoop : La PS2 en danger !!!!!

Chambourcy
Chambourcy
Niveau 8
09 mai 2001 à 16:13:41

Les coûts de lancement de la Playstation 2 et son avenir en question ont fait fondre les bénéfices de Sony. La branche jeux video menace le géant de l´électronique, selon des sources, Sony essairait de ce détacher de se secteurs discrétements, pour essayer de sauver le plus d´argent possible.

Sony au bord de la castastrophe, les bénéfices annuels de Sony s´effondrent. Le géant de l´électronique essais de le caché, pour l´année écoulée (avril 2000-mars 2001), un résultat net à peine positif de "seulement" 16,8 milliards de yens (environ un milliard de francs). C´est une chute de 86 \% par rapport à l´exercice précédent. Des pertes enormes sont prévues pour cette années. La multinationale japonaise impute ces mauvais résultats aux dépenses qu´elle a dû engager pour le lancement de la deuxième version de la console de jeux PlayStation et son echec déja prévu face aux futures Microsoft XBox et Nintendo Game Cub, attendues par le public.

Rappellons nous l´époque ou Nintendo dominé le monde avec la Super Famicom, personne ne présagé le demi-echec de la N64 ! Aprés l´incroyable succes de la Playstation dans ce secteur d´activité, nous allons assister tristement à la chute de SCE et de la Playstation 2...

VGC
VGC
Niveau 8
09 mai 2001 à 16:16:24

T´as eu ça ou ??? moi g eu Sony au téléphone Vendredi (je le répéte mais je suis webmaster d´un site de jeux vidéo) et ils m´ont dis que la PS2 faisait le plus gros du bénéfice de la marque, alors donnes la source

Cobra
Cobra
Niveau 10
09 mai 2001 à 16:20:29

Sans étayer ce que dit chambourcy.
Ils vont pas te dire à toi simple webmaster qu´ils sont dans la panade.

Chambourcy
Chambourcy
Niveau 8
09 mai 2001 à 16:22:42

T´es Webmaster de quel site ? Le défaut des sites (amateurs), c´est de ne pas regarder les sites sur l´economies (ou méme généraliste), si tu es interesser par ce sujet, dont tous les sites vont se faire l´echo dans quelque temps, commence par chercher de l´info sur l´année fiscale de Sony, et fait la analyser par n´importe quel boursicoteur. Pour ma source directe, excuse moi je ne peut pas te la dévoiller.
@+

Pseudo supprimé
Pseudo supprimé 09 mai 2001 à 16:25:31

Bon, ecoutez le seul vrai rapport c´est celui qui est sur mon bureau et qui est distribue a tous les partenaires economiques, banques et institutions financieres. Il fait plus de 50 pages. Voici un bref resume.

Consolidated Results for the Year

Consolidated Results

Note I:

i) In June 2000, the Accounting Standards Executive Committee of the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants ("AcSEC") issued Statement of Position ("SOP") 00-2, "Accounting by Producers or Distributors of Films." SOP 00-2 is effective for fiscal years starting on or after December 16, 2000 with early application encouraged. Sony adopted SOP 00-2 in the first quarter ended June 30, 2000, effective as of April 1, 2000 (refer to Adoption of New Accountin Standards). As a result, Sony´s operating income, income before income taxes, and net income for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2001 each decreased by approximately ¥28.5 billion ($228 million), and for the fourth quarter ended March 31, 2001 each decreased by approximately ¥3.1 billion ($25 million). Additionally, Sony´s net income for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2001 decreased by ¥101.7 billion ($813 million), reflecting a one-time non-cash cumulative effect adjustment in the income statement directly above the caption of "net income" for a change in accounting principle in the first quarter ended June 30, 2000.

ii) On January 5, 2000, the acquisition transactions by way of exchanges of stock, whereby Sony Music Entertainment (Japan) Inc., Sony Chemicals Corporation, and Sony Precision Technology Inc. became wholly-owned subsidiaries of Sony Corporation, were completed. Intangible assets and goodwill realized from these transactions are being amortized over their useful lives of up to a maximum of 20 years. Such amortization is recorded in selling, general and administrative expenses. As a result, during the fiscal year ended March 31, 2001, operating income and income before income taxes each decreased by approximately ¥16.7 billion ($134 million), and net income decreased by approximately ¥13.3 billion ($106 million), and during the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000, operating income and income before income taxes each decreased by approximately ¥4.2 billion, and net income decreased by approximately ¥3.3 billion.

iii) In December 1999, the Securities and Exchange Commission issued Staff Accounting Bulletin ("SAB") No. 101, "Revenue Recognition in Financial Statements." Sony adopted SAB No. 101 in the fourth quarter ended March 31, 2001, effective as of April 1, 2000. The impact on consolidated results for this change in accounting principle was not material. However, a one-time non-cash cumulative effect adjustment of ¥2.8 billion ($23 million) was recorded in the income statement directly above the caption of "net income" for a change in accounting principle.

iv) Simultaneous with the adoption of SAB No. 101, gain or loss on sale and disposal, net and loss from impairment of long-lived assets, which were previously recorded in other income and expenses, are now recorded in selling, general and administrative expenses. Such amounts in previous fiscal years have been reclassified to conform to the presentation for the fiscal year and the fourth quarter ended March 31, 2001.

Operating Performance Highlights

Note II: During the fiscal year ended March 31, 2001, the average value of the yen was ¥109.6 against the U.S. dollar, and ¥98.9 against the euro, which was 0.9\% higher against the U.S. dollar and 15.1\% higher against the euro, respectively, compared with the level of the previous year. Operating results on a local currency basis described in "Consolidated Results" reflect sales and operating revenue (herein referred to as "sales") and operating income obtained by applying the yen´s average exchange rate in the previous year to local currency-denominated sales, cost of sales, and selling, general and administrative expenses, assuming the value of the yen had remained the same. Regarding the U.S. based Music and Pictures businesses, results of worldwide subsidiaries (in the case of Music, excluding those of Japan) are consolidated on a U.S. dollar basis. Therefore, regarding such businesses, discussion of operating results on a local currency basis is on a U.S. dollar basis. Local currency basis results are not reflected in Sony´s financial statements and are not measures conforming with Generally Accepted Accounting Principles in the U.S. ("U.S. GAAP"). Also, Sony does not believe that these measures are a substitute for U.S. GAAP measures. However, Sony believes that local currency basis results provide additional useful information to investors regarding operating performance.

During the fiscal year ended March 31, 2001, worldwide economic conditions were generally favorable in the first half of the year in such major regions as Japan, the U.S., Europe, Asia (excluding Japan), and Latin America, reflecting continued strong economic growth in the U.S. and Europe. However in the second half of the year, an economic slowdown was clearly seen in the U.S. where there was a rapid deceleration in the growth of personal consumption. Corresponding to this negative trend in the U.S., economies of such regions as Asia and Europe as well as Japan, where full-scale economic recovery had not been achieved partly due to continuing concerns regarding the quality of credit portfolios in the banking sector, also showed signs of slowing down toward the end of the year. In such an environment, although results on a local currency basis(refer to Note II) during the year were strong in the Electronics business, especially in the first half of the year, they were weak in the other businesses. Consolidated sales increased approximately 12\% compared with the previous year, principally due to a significant sales increase in the Electronics business as well as sales increases in the other businesses, except for the Music business. Operating income increased approximately 48\%, due to a significant increase in the Electronics business, although it decreased in the Music, Pictures, and Insurance businesses, and operating losses were recorded in the Game and Other businesses.

In Sony´s financial statements, which in accordance with U.S. GAAP reflect the impact of the translation of financial results and conditions into yen, the currency in which the financial statements are prepared, sales increased 9.4\% to ¥7,314.8 billion ($58,518 million) and operating income increased 1.0\% to ¥225.3 billion ($1,803 million) compared with the previous year, due to the aforementioned results offset in part by the negative impact of the yen´s strength against the U.S. dollar and particularly the euro.

Cost of sales during the year increased. This was principally due to increases in raw materials, depreciation, and research and development expenses. However, in the Pictures business, due to Sony´s adoption in April 2000 of the new film accounting standard (refer to Note I -i), certain exploitation costs such as advertising expenses and marketing costs are now recorded as incurred in selling, general, and administrative expenses for the current fiscal year, rather than deferred as film inventory and amortized in cost of sales as in previous fiscal years.

Selling, general, and administrative expenses during the year increased. This was principally due to the effects of the aforementioned new film accounting standard, an increase in amortization expenses for intangible assets and goodwill resulting from the acquisition transactions of three listed subsidiaries by way of exchanges of stock (refer to Note I-ii), and an increase in licensing expenses. However, the increase in selling, general, and administrative expenses was partially offset by an approximately ¥5.6 billion ($45 million) reversal of a charge related to stock-price linked incentive compensation previously reserved, reflecting the decrease in Sony Corporation´s stock price during the year. (Selling, general, and administrative expenses in the previous year included an approximately ¥19.2 billion charge related to the incentive compensation.)

In addition, gain or loss on sale and disposal, net and loss from impairment of long-lived assets, which were previously recorded in other income and expenses, are now recorded in selling, general and administrative expenses (refer to Note I-iv). Loss on sale and disposal, net and loss from impairment of long-lived assets increased 39.5\% to ¥24.3 billion ($194 million) compared with the previous year. During the year, loss on sale and disposal of long-lived assets was recorded primarily in the Electronics business, in which Sony actively proceeded with new equipment purchases and consolidation of manufacturing facilities.

Alors arretez avec vos sources de je sais pas ou !!!

lak
lak
Niveau 10
09 mai 2001 à 16:26:21

Evidemment...

Marrant ça, mais un certain Demon a posté la même chose sur playfrance...

En fait tu as brodé autour des résultats de Sony (article de playfrance, par exemple). Tu n´as aucune source.

lak
lak
Niveau 10
09 mai 2001 à 16:27:23

Ma réponse s´adressait à chambourcy, bien sur...

XMANTRONIX
XMANTRONIX
Niveau 10
09 mai 2001 à 16:29:46

si j´etais un anti je te dirais,
chambourcy oh oui, mais t´inquiete
pas pour sony, j´ai jamais vu autant
d´editeurs annoncant qui preparait
des jeux ps2 depuis quinze jours,
c´est bien simple, ça fuse de tout
les cotés, de toute façon impossible
d´avoir tout ces jeux il va falloir
faire des choix.

Pseudo supprimé
Pseudo supprimé 09 mai 2001 à 16:30:50

Et voici l´article sur la PS2 dans le rapport...

During the fiscal year ended March 31, 2001, on a local currency basis, sales in the Game business increased approximately 2\% and an operating loss was recorded compared with an operating profit in the previous year.

Regarding sales by geographic segment on a local currency basis, in Japan, although software sales decreased, overall sales in Japan were almost flat due to an increase of hardware sales reflecting the introductions of PlayStation 2 in March 2000 and PS one in July 2000. Overall sales in the U.S. increased due to an increase of hardware sales reflecting the introductions of PS one in September 2000 and PlayStation 2 in October 2000, although software sales decreased. In Europe, although hardware sales increased reflecting the introductions of PS one in September 2000 and PlayStation 2 in November 2000, overall sales in Europe decreased slightly due to a decrease in software sales. As a result, overall sales in the Game business increased slightly. In addition, in the U.S. and Europe, due to shortages in production shipments and supplies of PlayStation and PS one hardware in certain periods during the year, sales of such hardware decreased in the corresponding periods and software sales in those areas were negatively affected.

On a U.S. GAAP basis, sales were almost flat at ¥660.9 billion ($5,287 million) and an operating loss of ¥51.1 billion ($409 million) was recorded compared with an operating profit of ¥76.9 billion recorded in the previous year, due to the aforementioned factors and the negative impact of the yen´s strength against the U.S. dollar and particularly the euro. Operating losses were recorded principally due to the aforementioned sales decrease, especially in software, and start-up expenses for the PlayStation 2 format. Cost of sales in the Game business increased principally in manufacturing-related expenses for PlayStation 2 hardware, including raw materials and depreciation expenses. Selling, general, and administrative expenses also increased principally due to amortization of intangible assets and goodwill resulting from the acquisition transactions by way of exchanges of stock (refer to Note I -ii). As a result, the ratio of cost of sales and the ratio of selling, general, and administrative expenses to sales rose.

Total worldwide production shipments of PlayStation and PS one hardware were 9.31 million units for the year compared with 18.50 million units for the previous year, resulting in cumulative shipments of 82.23 million units as of March 31, 2001. Worldwide production shipments of PlayStation 2 hardware were 9.20 million units for the year compared with 1.41 million units for the previous year, resulting in cumulative shipments of 10.61 million units as of March 31, 2001. Worldwide production shipments of PlayStation software (including that from both Sony and third parties under Sony licenses) were 135 million units for the year compared with 200 million units for the previous year, resulting in cumulative shipments of 765 million units as of March 31, 2001. In addition, production shipments of PlayStation 2 software (including that from both Sony and third parties under Sony licenses) were 35.4 million units for the year compared with 2.9 million units for the previous year, resulting in cumulative shipments of 38.3 million units as of March 31, 2001.

C´est clair, net et precis...non ??

VGC
VGC
Niveau 8
09 mai 2001 à 16:31:48

Chambourcy, je voulai te dire que je suis pas un site amateur (de 1) et je m´interresse a la bourse car je suis boursicoteur et je possede des actions SONY bon je te laisse

gouzz
gouzz
Niveau 4
09 mai 2001 à 16:32:55

L’année fiscale vient de se terminer et les sociétés présentent leurs résultats financiers. Pour l’année 2000, Sony Computer Entertainment a du faire face à d’énormes dépenses pour le lancement de la PlayStation 2 partout dans le monde, entraînant avec lui, une grande partie du marché du jeux vidéo dans une phase de transition délicate à négocier. Ainsi, d’après le Nihon Keizai Shimbun, pour l’année fiscale 2000/2001, la branche jeux vidéo de Sony aurait enregistré une perte de 50 milliards de yen (c’est une estimation, les résultats officiels seront annoncés le 27 avril), soit un peu plus de 3 milliards de Francs ! Les problèmes de production de PS2 qu’a connu Sony pourraient également expliquer ce mauvais résultat.

Pour l’année fiscale à venir (2001/2002), le journal économique japonais prévoit en revanche une remontée spectaculaire, mais somme toute assez logique, de la santé financière de Sony CE. Ainsi, la société pourrait engranger, selon des estimations, un bénéfice de 25 milliards de yen, soit 1,5 milliards de Francs. La PlayStation 2 n’aurait, dans ce cas, pas demandé beaucoup de temps pour être rentable…

http://www.overgame.com/rubrik/article.asp?artic_id=13156&
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Chambourcy
Chambourcy
Niveau 8
09 mai 2001 à 16:34:34

le_jap, je n´est rien contre toi, mais j´ai pas eu le courage de traduire et de lire ton texte, met un résumé en français et explique moi en quoi tu n´est pas d´accord avec moi.
@+

PS : Lak, petit joueur avant tout, lache moi les pompes, stp, et va lire la descrition que j´ai fait de toi sur PF. Si tu veut jouer à ce jeux, t´en aura marre avant moi...

lak
lak
Niveau 10
09 mai 2001 à 16:45:53

Si tu parles de celle avec le faux message plein de fautes, je l´ai lue. Et puis mon post ici n´avait rien d´agressif, je constate juste que ta source nous est bizarrement inconnue.

Pour le_jap :
Demon sur playfrance = chambourcy ici.

The_Dude_LeVrai
The_Dude_LeVrai
Niveau 10
09 mai 2001 à 16:49:37

les couts de lancement et de developpement sont rentabilises......c´est simplement maintenant qu´ils font un peu de perte.....mais ca c´est bientot fini.......

XMANTRONIX
XMANTRONIX
Niveau 10
09 mai 2001 à 16:52:40

je te dit pas le carnage qui vont
faire dans le monde avec GT3.

ZeTrueChocobo
ZeTrueChocobo
Niveau 10
09 mai 2001 à 16:57:47

Il y a un forum, sur pf?!

Chambourcy
Chambourcy
Niveau 8
09 mai 2001 à 17:04:01

Oui y a un forum, remplient de pseudo-HCG non objectives et insultantes avec toutes les personnes qui sont pas d´accord avec la masse. Ne t´avise pas à dire du mal d´un jeu ou de la PS2, sinon on te catalogue de suite de pro ou anti quelque chose ! Affligeant et pathétique, tu ne rate rien... Et les filles redescendez sur terre, on est pas bérouth !

ZeTrueChocobo
ZeTrueChocobo
Niveau 10
09 mai 2001 à 17:08:48

Il y a pire.

Tiens, rien qu´ici, on collectionne les mythomanes analphabètes.

Des mecs tellement ds le secret des puissants qu´ils ne peuvent pas donner trop de détail sans exposer dangereusement leurs informateurs.

Bouffon.

Sais tu lire l´anglais au moins?
Tu devrais faire cet effort.

lak
lak
Niveau 10
09 mai 2001 à 17:08:52

Oui, zetruechocobo, il faut cliquer sur l´icone "online" en haut de la page d´accueil.

XMANTRONIX
XMANTRONIX
Niveau 10
09 mai 2001 à 17:13:15

je vais vous dire la veri aaaaahhhhhh
:!!;!^ù;ù=)!

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