je vois bien devil jin boss, c´est lui qui organise le tournoi, tout le monde veut sa mort et il est devenu entièrement mauvais (il est sous l´emprise de devil maintenant). et je pense que kazuya sera son adversaire principal et donc le gagnant (du moins si il utilise devil, ce serait super si on pouvais le jouer a nouveau en devil)
si on fait le jeu ac devil jin, ben je pense que on se retrouvera avec kazuya (ou devil kazuya si il est jouable) comme boss (ça faisait longtemps qu´il n´était pas au premier plan ... )

Ha, Devil était super !

Qu´est-ce que j´aimerais qu´il revienne, en plus, Devil et Devil n´ont pas la même tecghnique de combat, donc il peuvent être là tous les 2.

Y aussi Angel qui me manque, mais un tout peut peu.

Mais bon, pour elle, faut pas rever !

Pardon, Devil et Devil !J in!.

( pour le double post)

c´était le bon temps

Et Mon devil gon et mon alex junior kangourou alors :´( na bande de raciste ^^

Gon laisse tomber pour cette fois ci et les autres fois également ! ^^

TELombre Tu n´as pas honte de upper ?

Je plaisante hein !

Je vais y aller aussi de mes théories fumeuses.

Déjà Kazuya est mort, et en ressucitant son âge est bloqué.
Il avait entre 23 et 27 ans à ce moment là.
Donc il n´a pas les 50 ans "réels", il a le corps et la vitalité d´un jeune homme.

De plus, quand on voit l´âge d´Heihachi et qu´il est devenu Boss assez régulier je pense que ça ne compterait pas même s´il vieillissait.

Heihachi : je l´exclus de la place de boss de Tekken 6. ça me parait trop improbable, il vieillit encore, la dernière tentative d´assassinat n´a pas dû l´aider, et sa seule option était de mélanger le sang de sa descendance avec le sang d´ogre pour ne pas mourir.
Vu la colère de Kazuya, et l´irritabilité de Jin, je crois qu´il a foiré.

Jin : pourquoi pas. Il me gonfle à gagner les derniers Tekken, mais il me parait le plus probable.
Je me demande si c´est toujours le gagnant du tournoi qui organise d´ailleurs ?
Dans le 4 Heihachi organise mais ne gagne pas. Et c´est pas Jin qui organise le 5ème tournoi.

Alors Jin n´a pas forcément gagné, même si je pense que oui car déjà le prix du tournoi était la direction de la Zaibatsu Mishima dans le 4.

Kazuya : il contrôle maintenant le devil gene et donc le Diable qu´il est lui aussi (double personnalité ) depuis pas mal de temps ce qui est un plus indéniable.
Il est dans la force de l´âge et le restera vu qu´il ne vieillit plus.
Comparé à Jin, il a la même tranche d´âge physiquement.
Ça ne m´étonnerait pas qu´il ait gagné en puissance en tuant son grand père, et Jin lui aurait pété un cable car il ne contrôle absolument pas sa part de devil.

Ensuite, j´espère que niveau game play les programmeurs nous donneront un Kazuya plus équilibré.
Autant dans Tekken 2 c´était THE boss qui faisait bien mal et bien peur, autant après j´ai l´impression qu´il baissait de puissance en permanence.
Trop de peu de coups et d´enchainements par rapport à la plupart des personnages, peu de combos 10 coups et seulement 1 qui est difficile à contrer. Pas de blocage des coups alors que c´est la fête aux blocages chez pas mal de personnages. Une allonge moins longue certains pour des coups similaires (un coup de poing de Paul qui hurle), une rapidité trop moyenne par rapport à ceux qui speedent (Nina, Steeve), quasiment aucun coup safe et il punit moyennement (mais quand ça passe, ça pique. Malheureusement contre des bons joueurs ça passe quasiment jamais).
Bref, il a été peu amélioré par rapport aux autres, je trouve.

Et quant à ce à quoi ressemble Devil, rien n´empêche qu´il ait quelque peu évolué depuis le temps.
Quand on voit à quoi ressemble Devil Jin, il y a une grosse différence.

Je pense que Kazuya a gagné le 5ème tournoi, ou qu´il ne l´a pas gagné parce que c´est Jin, mais sera alors un des Boss du 6ème tournoi, et peut-être le gagnera enfin (à nouveau).

Thanhatos pour savoir qui a gagné Tekken 5, re garde sur ce site dans la section Tekken 6.

Sinon, Heihachi a organisé ET ganné le 4 (regarde dans le manuel de Tekken 5 dans la bio de Kazuya.

Et le boss sera surment Jin, puis quand on le bats, il se transforme en Devil Jin (comme dans Tekken 2).

Sinon, quand on contrôle Jin ou Devil Jin, soit doit être Kazuya puis Devil (et pourquoi tu dis que Devil est mort ? J´ai loupé un épisode ou quoi).

Mais y a aussi le monstre avec la glace qui sera surment le boss.

Oups, j´ai oublié :

www.tekken-forces.com

Lien mort !

Heu, j´ai pas dit que Devil est mort, j´ai dit que Kazuya l´était, mais en fait je me suis mal exprimé.
Depuis que Devil l´a (re-)sauvé de la mort, le volcan, il ne vieillit plus.

Yep, en fait on peut dire qu´Heihachi a gagné le 4, j´ai assimilé la victoire à Jin parce qu´il le bat après que Kazuya le détache, c´est une erreur. ^^

(Ce qui est louche car pourquoi Kazuya le détacherait s´il n´avait pas battu Heihachi juste avant ? Là dessus c´est pas cohérent. Kazuya ne pourrait s´être battu contre Jin uniquement s´il avait battu Heihachi).

Merci pour le site.
En fait on voit déjà les personnages de base si je me trompe pas, non ?
Car on a leur bio´ dans la partie Tekken 6.

Pour l´apparence de devil, si tu regardes le prologue de kazuya, tu vois qu´il n´a pas changé physiquement.

Et la panoplie de coup en effet est moins intéréssante que celle de beaucoups d´autres. Mais selon un site mis sur un topic, kazuya sera le meilleur des mishimas dans tekken 6

J´aimerai bien qu´il dispose d´une attack reversal

Je sais pas cmt on peut dire qu´un perso est bon avt que le jeu sorte. Juste un délire de fan à mon avis.

Sur un site mis sur un topic de ce forum, il y a les nouveaux coups pour les persos et pour kazuya, il y a une indication avec, je vais essayer de trouver un lien (c´était en anglais)

De supernova93

Mise a jour des modifications T6 :
DEVIL JIN

• New move, f,f+3,1,b+1+2 (3rd hit is a mid punch). Zekusu doesn’t have any ideas on how to use the move yet.
• New move, b+3, seems useless right now.
• d/f+1+2 was changed to a double punch attack, the 2nd hit options were taken out.
• The laser throw recovers slower now. No guaranteed follow up afterwards.
• After hellsweep hits up close ONLY, 1+4 can connect, but it won’t if you do dash 1+4.
• 1+4 move animation has changed. Frame properties have changed as well.
• Combo damage has been toned down.
• d/f+1,2~f,f, hellsweep ender for juggles is no longer possible.
• Recovery off d/f+1,2 is slower now. The cancel doesn’t seem to be there anymore.
• If you play Devil Jin like you played him in DR, overall he is much weaker
• d/f+2 animation has changed.

ZAFINA

• d/f+2 is a high crush.

HEIHACHI MISHIMA

• d/f+1,2 (twin pistons) has been removed. Instead the new move is d/f+1 into a new second hit. It no longer launches, it’s more like a hammer fist move that causes knockdown.
• New move similar to Kazuya’s d/f+3, causes unbreakable stun on CH.
• Heihachi has a new low move.
• EWGF, f,f+2, d+1 and hellsweep seem to be the same.

KAZUYA MISHIMA

• Kazuya seems to be the strongest of the Mishimas now.
• Kazuya has a new string, 1,2,4,3. The last kick is mid.
• New move, d/f+3,1
• New move, b+1+2 which is similar to Heihachi’s b+2. Does not stun on CH.
• New mid, mid string. b+1,2.

JIN KAZAMA

• From the limited play time with Jin, there doesn’t seem to be any noticeable changes with his game play.

ASUKA KAZAMA

• Asuka’s old f,f+2 from T5DR is now done by inputting SS+2.
• Her new f,f+2 is the 2nd hit from d/f+1,2 string in DR. On counter hit it shifts into the auto throw.
• New string, 2,1,1+2. The last hit throws the opponent down and can be cancelled.
• Asuka can now do the last kick of b+2,1+2,4 as a normal move.
• Most of her animation is the same as T5DR.

MARSHALL LAW

• Law has a new low, high string. His right foot kicks the opponent on their shin, the left leg then throws out a high kick. This move is from the final fight in Bruce Lee’s “Way of the Dragon” (Also called “Return of the Dragon”.
• Law had a new costume that was similar to the one where Bruce Lee fought Sammo Hung in “Game of Death.”
• His item move is done with the nunchaku. The animation is similar to Maxi’s movement in Soul Calibur.
• You can use Law’s item move infinitely. When you do the move Law takes out the nunchuaku to do the hit attack then hides it afterwards.
• Law’s movement/animation has changed and is more like Maxi’s movement from Soul Calibur.
• DSS/DFS seems to be the same as T5DR.
• The animation for b+1,2,1 is different.
• Many of the other moves have different animations as well.
• New Move, d+4,3 is natural combo that does little damage. d+4 no longer crushes highs.
• New Move, DSS(Dragon Stance Sign) 1+2, it looks like a faster version of f+2~1 one inch punch. Shorter range.
• New Move, 3+4. Mid double kick attack that looks like the last hit of Anna’s u/f+1,3,3+4 string. Good range and crushes lows.
• New Move, WS+1,2 new WS punisher, hits mid, high and may be natural combo.
• New Move, d+2,3, the old move was changed into a low right punch into a knee strike. It launches on CH only.
• 4 is now a different kick, f+4 is more like the standing 4 of T5DR. CH f+4, b+2,3,4, DSS 3 still hits.
• d/f+2 range is shorter(this seems to be the case with all characters that have generic d/f+2).
• SSR 3+4, d/b+3, f+1+2 all combos together on the ground.
• f,f+2,1,3 range has been reduced on the initial strike.
• B+4 transitions Law into BT stance now, b+4 makes him face forward.
• U/F+4 flipkick can now transition to DFS>SS. By going into stance the flipkick recovers faster. This new transition enables more juggle possibilites.

RAVEN

• New move. FC 1+2, Raven vanishes for a short period of time. During the move you can input 4 and his d/f+3+4 from T5DR comes out. Inputting 2 during the move will give you his old d/f+1+2 from T5DR.
• The command of d/f+1+2 and d/f+3+4 are no longer there.

STEVE FOX

• Steve has a new stance. It’s the “peek a boo” stance done by inputting f+3+4 or 3+4, f+3+4. The motion is similar to the main character’s fighting style in Hajime No Ippo.
• From the “peek a boo” stance, you can use a 1 or 2 punch. His 1+3 throw from the stance is 6-8 punches. If the throw whiffs, you recover back in “peek a boo” stance.
• According to Namco staff, you are stationary during the stance and can’t do any movement.
• d/f+2 launches on counter hit only.
• b+1 range is longer. It is now easier to connect combos on counter hit.
• f,b+1,1,2,1 is either removed from the game or has a completely new notation.
• Animation on the third hit of 1,1,2 has been altered.
• f,f,N+2 in T5DR has changed it’s input back to f,f+2(like in Tekken 4). The T5DR f,f+2 was either removed or has a new notation.
• d/f+1+2 sonic fang pushes back less on guard, compared to T5DR.

BAEK DOO SAN

• New move. SS+3+4 which launches on hit.
• Animation on WS+4 strings were changed slightly.
• According to Namco staff, Baek has fewer animation changes than most characters because his animations were already redone in T5DR.

HWOARANG

• New move. f,N,d,d/f+3. Mid kick, with long range.
• LFS 3,3, strings/cancels were removed.
• New moves in LFS. One long rage move and another move that tracks to the left side.
• f,N,d/f+4 Talon Sky Rocket(Just Frame Sky Rocket) is now more difficult to do than T5DR.
• WS+4,4 range has been increased.

LEE CHAOLAN

- The third hit options after f,N+3,4 are now gone.
- The last part of 4,3,4 is either impossible or very hard to do as a wall ender now.
- T6 Lee looks older

RAVEN

• f+2 in T5DR is now f,f+2 in T6.
• QCF+2(hold 2) now cancels the move and goes into BT.
• Another guy posted that 3+4 makes Raven vanish(not FC 1+2). New move may have tech crouch status.

BRUCE IRVIN

• d/f+4 has new options. After d/f+4 you can link it to a new low kick, left mid hook, or a left high punch into knee strike.
• The T5DR d/f+1,2 either has a new notation or has been removed.
• When you do d/f+1 in Tekken 6 you get the T5DR move d/f+1+2.
• d/f+1 into the high punch is still in. There is also a mid punch option. The low kick option was taken out.
• WS+2,1 and b+2 seem to have the same properties.
• New move. f,f+3 is a different type of mid spin-kick.
• New move. 2,1,1+2, on hit throws the opponent down. Third hit of the string can be cancelled.
• f+3 on CH is a different stun now, it can be broken. f+3 links into a high punch option.
• 1,2,3 is now gone.
• 1,2,d+4 is still in.
• The animation of f+2 has changed, f+2,3 second hit does the SS+3 kick from T5DR.

PAUL PHOENIX

• New move, d/f+3,4. Similar to Hwoarang’s d/f+3,4.
• New Move, QCF+3 is a new low kick move that knocks down on CH. f,f+4 may be guaranteed after it hits on CH.
• New Move, b+1+2. b,b+1+2 is the new notation for the b+1+2 unblockable in T5DR.
• Phoenix Smasher(aka death fist) no longer pushes back like in previous games.
• New Move, QCF+1+2 is a new low move that is quicker/more useful than the T5DR QCF+1+2.

LEI WULONG

• New move, d/f+1,1,1 string.
• d+3+4 animation has changed.
• New Move, b+4,1 which is a low, high natural combo string. It is about 23 frames impact and the second hit causes knockdown and wallstun. When the first hit is blocked the second hit can not be interrupted by an 11 frame WS move. The string can be delayed. On block the move seems to be around -14. The move feels similar to Julia’s FC d/f+4,3 only except you do it from a standing position.
• New Move, d/f+1,1,1 is an all mid string. The first two hits are natural combo. The second and last hits in the string can be delayed.
• New Move, 2,1 is a new high,mid string that hits as natural combo. 2,1~F transitions Lei into DRU(Drunken) stance.
• New Move, d+2 is a mid strike that forces the opponent to crouching state when blocked. On CH it knocks down the enemy into SLD position.
• New Move, d+4,4 which is a low to a mid kick. Not natural combo and cannot be delayed. d+4,4~F transitions Lei into DRU stance. Lei can still d+4~D_U to go into SNK(Snake).
• New Move, BT b+1,1 high, mid string that leaves you in BT after performing the move. Lei is at a huge disadvantage after the move is blocked.
• New Move, SNK 1,2,1,2 string. The first three hits are natural combo. The last hit of the string is high. After the second or last hit of the string Lei stays in SNK stance.
• New Move, DRA(Dragon) 3 is a new low. It does not knock down on hit. The animation is similar to Xiaoyu’s AOP f+4. Lei recovers crouching after he performs the move. If you input DRA 3* (hold 3) Lei transitions into CRN(Crane). Does not have crush properties.
• New Move, TGR (Tiger) 3 is a new mid kick that crushes lows. Causes knockdown on hit.
• New Move, DRU b+1+2 is a lunging, spinning headbutt like Jackie Chan does in Drunken Master II. Recovers in SLD position.
• New Move, DRU 1 throw. The range and active frame of this throw has been increased. There are now two chances where the move will transition into the throw. Near wall, WS+3 is guaranteed. The throw break window seems to have gotten smaller.
• DRU d+3+4 and d+1+2 laying down is possible now. It is also possible for Lei to transition into other grounded positions other than PLD and SLD but the notation has not been found yet.

YOSHIMITSU

• Pogo stance ~f and f,f animation has changed.
• After f+3+4 hits Yoshi can enter helicopter stance by doing f+3+4~U.
• It seems Yoshimitsu’s juggles are a bit harder to do.
• Old d/f+1 series has been removed or has different notation.
• Yoshimitsu has a new stance/transition.

FENG WEI

• b+3+4 has been changed, it no longer goes to kenpo step parry. It’s now a low kick.
• b+3 kick from b+3,1 string can now be cancelled into BT by doing b+3~B.
• New move, BT 2+3. Feng now has a throw which he can do while in back turned state.

ANNA WILLIAMS

• WS+2 is now punishbale.
• The hit box for her u/b+3 kick is now smaller.
• The mixup between her FC d/f+2 and WS+2 is now much weaker against sidestep.

NINA WILLIAMS

• New multi throw starter and branches.
• New move, low swipe with her arm. On CH it shifts into another move.
• WS+1,2 has been removed.
• New Move, WS+1,1+2. When WS+1 hits, the followup is guaranteed

BRYAN FURY

• New Move, 3 hit string that is about 14 frames in speed. Natural combo and KND on normal hit. Also causes wallstun. Safe on block.
• Frame advantage when WS+3 hits has been reduced.

source : ben comme dhab, tekkenzaibatsu.com

Tu vois bien ce qui est écrit pour la première ligne d´info sur kazuya ?

Lei il a tous ça comme nouvel techniques ? Et ben c´est que c´st beaucoup !

Oui c´est beaucoup, mais malheureusement, ceux qui n´en avaient pas beaucoup, n´en n´ont pas beaucoup plus par rapport aux persos qui en ont beaucoup (euh ... vs me suivez ? )

Non

Je m´en doutais je reformule plus clairement : Je constate avec regret que les perso n´ayant pas une panoplie de coup grande n´ont que peu de nouveau coups. Ceux qui ont une grande panoplie de coup, eux, ont pleins de nouvelles techniques

Genre un perso comme Heihachi ou kazuya n´avait pas beaucoup de coup dans tekken 5, et là ils en ont 5 ou 6 nouveaux tandis que Lei wulong , qui avaiit pleins de coup dans teklken 5 a beaucoup de nouveaux coup, il en gagne beaucoup par rapport a kazuya et heihachi

Ce qui fait qu´accroître les écarts entre les persos

Vous comprenez mieu ?