On prendra une claque mais Playstation n'a jamais tout misé sur la puissance.
A part la PS4 Pro, la PS1, et la Vita, toutes les PS ont été faiblardes techniquement.

Au vu de ce que pourrai penser les devs, oui on va en prendre plein la gueule, il y a quelques mois, un devs a été estomaqué de ce qu'il a vu.

Moving on from this insane discussion, i wanted to bring back the hype cycle. Not calling anyone here an astroturfer but last gen around this time, i was at the gamespot forums and there was this guy who continually turned up in next gen threads to first tout the xbox specs, then misdirect after the rumors of it being less powerful and then finally resorted to bringing down the whole vibe of the place because people were actually excited about the ps4 specs. around the same time, a mod here received a list of members who were supposedly astroturfers and they were purged. Pretty sure that guy was an astroturfer because he disappeared after the consoles came out and i was told by an older member that he had turned up during the ps360 launch period too.

Again, not calling anyone here an astroturfer, but the end result is the same. This thread feels eerily like those gamespot threads where any positive ps4 discussion got shutdown by concern trolling, dismissal of rumors (ms would never release an underpowered console!!) and just all around shitty behavior that sucked all the joy from these threads which should be about hype for whats possible next gen.

EVERYONE in the industry has said that the PS5 is a beast. the very first rumors were ruthenticcookie breaking the news that sony wasnt attending e3, and that the ps5 is a monsters. $499 with a $100 loss monster.
WCCFTECH in November of 2018 said the ps5 would be using a bigger gpu than the 40 cu navi 10. he was the only one who said navi wont be gcn but an all new arch.
Digital foundry heard that the devs are 'quite happy' with the ps5 specs.
Jason schrier said that both guys are aiming to beat Stadia's number.
Colin and Andrew Reiner said that the ps5 is more powerful at E3. Colin said definitively more powerful.
Klee said that the game he saw was made on a ps5 devkit and had destruction, ray tracing reflections, ray traced global illumination and ray traced shadows.
Cerny said that the ps5 had an ssd that was faster than any ssd on the market. this confirms a 4+gbps ssd.
klee then said both consoles are double digit tflops.
then a few months later, clarified that the ps5 was slightly stronger. difference was launch x1 to x1s. 1.3 vs 1.4 tflops. 10-15%. 10% of 12 tflops is 1.2 tflops, 15% is 1.8 tflops. so 13.2 - 13.8 tflops.
wccftech doubles down on both consoles using bigger navis.
jason comes back to era to gloat about his stadia number prediction after tom warren confirmed that the xbox is 12 tflops.
jason later says hes heard and believes that both console makers are going with something even more powerful than the 2080 because they want to future proof this time.

all this points to an insanely powerful console. we know what sony could do with a $399 console design with a BOM of $381. we know what cerny did with a $250 vita. imagine what they can do with a $499 console with a $599 bom.

- 13-14 tflops
- 5gbps ssd
- fucking hbm. they have revealed everything except for ram? sony has a history of picking expensive ram. i wouldnt put it past them. ms has already announced it, sony hasnt. at the very least, this is exciting. do not let anyone take this excitement away just because they dont have anything to look forward to.

Let's not forget, before Sony did the wired article, the detractors laughed at us suggesting that ssd and ray tracing could be in next gen console. it was sony who made it standard and yet instead of us gushing over the possibilities, the conversation was hijacked and became about how the xbox is more powerful, and how the ray tracing in the ps5 isnt for visuals.

do you guys see? dont let these guys bring you down or shift the conversation. i can promise you, this will not stop even after the specs are officially revealed. it will only get worse. they will get more abrasive, more personal, and start making shit up like gpus in the power brick and power of the fucking cloud. You cannot win with these people so do not let them control the conversation. we have already seen this with team realistic and team thermals being complete dicks to us for over a year then after the MS 12 tflops reveal, do a 180 without conceding they were dead wrong. they threw away all their theories about thermal draw after seeing that console, but only for MS. Sony is still 9 tflops. They will never admit they were wrong. so why bother?

be excited. this is supposed to be fun. speculate away with hbm and 13 tflops. everything these nerds said wouldnt come true has already come true. ssd, ray tracing, move away from gcn, 12 tflops, 8 core 16 thread cpus. why not hbm and 13-14 tflops? the other forum systematically discredited and silenced posters who dared to dream bigger even after ms proved us all right. thankfully mods here arent controlled by that mob. go crazy. have fun. this is going to be the best gen of all time.

lets bring back hbm and 12.9 tflops.

Message intéressant car il regroupe les rumeurs les plus probable à propos de la ps5. Source Neogaf.

Déjà avec le raytracing il y aura une différence, puis la PS4 fait 1.84 teraflop et la ps5 disont 10 teraflop alors oui, il y aura une différence car vu la différence de puissance il y aura des monde ouvert plus grand,plus de détails....

Le 09 février 2020 à 11:13:44 Dydou a écrit :
Bah écoute je l'espère, je ne demande que ça. Mais je pense qu'on s'approche des limites et je ne vois pas, aujourd'hui, comment la PS5 peut exploser la PS4 comme l'avait fait les générations précédentes.

Lorsque Shadow Of The Beast est sortie 1989 sur Amiga 500, tout le monde s'accordait à dire, qu'on ne pourrait jamais faire un plus beau jeu !!!! tu vois la suite ?